It was talked about earlier with the idea of Jonas and Bree related and then someone talked about them hooking up... and then it kinda went from there... in a weird off-tangentjoygasm wrote:
I admit to only skimming through these pages tonight... but, uh... was there anything really in the video that brought up incest? Why is it such a big topic on this thread? Not to sound rude... I am just curious...
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I don't think Bree and Jonas will hook up... but I am hoping they are siblings. Personally... I think they respond to each other very much how me and my brother responded to each other growing up. Sometime we were best friends, playing and laughing about the silliest stuff... the next, my brother was treating me exactly as Jonas is treating Bree. I, personally, am looking at that as foreshadowing...Chelseyrl wrote:It was talked about earlier with the idea of Jonas and Bree related and then someone talked about them hooking up... and then it kinda went from there... in a weird off-tangentjoygasm wrote:
I admit to only skimming through these pages tonight... but, uh... was there anything really in the video that brought up incest? Why is it such a big topic on this thread? Not to sound rude... I am just curious...
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You other girls better back it up! He is mine! Just ask him!!
You other girls better back it up! He is mine! Just ask him!!
Like someone said earlier... it was all based on the Luke and Leiajoygasm wrote:Nice! ROFL!!Lurker wrote:I think she triggered something, for sure. "Manic mode" is probably as good a title for it as anything.JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:7. If there is a "trigger" that sets off his "manic" mode, maybe it has something to do with the aunt.
I admit to only skimming through these pages tonight... but, uh... was there anything really in the video that brought up incest? Why is it such a big topic on this thread? Not to sound rude... I am just curious...
edit: AM answered my question before I could submit it... Thanks!
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I am hoping for them to be bro and sis as well. (or maybe even cousins...) I completely agree on how they repsond to each other.joygasm wrote:I don't think Bree and Jonas will hook up... but I am hoping they are siblings. Personally... I think they respond to each other very much how me and my brother responded to each other growing up. Sometime we were best friends, playing and laughing about the silliest stuff... the next, my brother was treating me exactly as Jonas is treating Bree. I, personally, am looking at that as foreshadowing...Chelseyrl wrote:It was talked about earlier with the idea of Jonas and Bree related and then someone talked about them hooking up... and then it kinda went from there... in a weird off-tangentjoygasm wrote:
I admit to only skimming through these pages tonight... but, uh... was there anything really in the video that brought up incest? Why is it such a big topic on this thread? Not to sound rude... I am just curious...
My older brother and I used to fight like that a lot a couple years ago... it's funny to watch
Please will you stop referring to me as a troll. I posted that with NO intention of insulting anyone or making any fights okay?AM wrote:She was responding to a troll who claimed that her family routinely pracitced incest. The incest thing came up because some still believe in the Luke and Leya theory re: Jonas & Bree and some want them to 'hook up'. It would sure give a whole new meaning to 'walk of shame' eh?3. @_@ where did that come from?
It is funny to watch! We acted more like children when we were the ages of Bree and Daniel than when we were kids... (other than the times we were on road trips and I would have to point out constantly (Mama! Jeremy's looking at me!!).Chelseyrl wrote:I am hoping for them to be bro and sis as well. (or maybe even cousins...) I completely agree on how they repsond to each other.joygasm wrote:I don't think Bree and Jonas will hook up... but I am hoping they are siblings. Personally... I think they respond to each other very much how me and my brother responded to each other growing up. Sometime we were best friends, playing and laughing about the silliest stuff... the next, my brother was treating me exactly as Jonas is treating Bree. I, personally, am looking at that as foreshadowing...Chelseyrl wrote:It was talked about earlier with the idea of Jonas and Bree related and then someone talked about them hooking up... and then it kinda went from there... in a weird off-tangentjoygasm wrote:
I admit to only skimming through these pages tonight... but, uh... was there anything really in the video that brought up incest? Why is it such a big topic on this thread? Not to sound rude... I am just curious...
My older brother and I used to fight like that a lot a couple years ago... it's funny to watch
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It won't let me delete my post for some reason... weren't you able to before??
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You other girls better back it up! He is mine! Just ask him!!
You other girls better back it up! He is mine! Just ask him!!
Robotic gangsta ...that made me laughLurker wrote:It's not that weird. We even had somebody post in this thread that there's something like 15 years difference between their age and their sisters'.JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:1. It's weird that Jonas's 'aunt' isn't much older than them. This seems to indicate that something is up. She either isn't his blood-related aunt, or his grandparents forgot the basic rules of protection in their late life scenility. Poor folks.
I'm not sure bringing that up was the best way to let the issue drop (also not sure being quite so negative of other people's private lives is the best approach in general, buuut...) - and I'm aware that I'm about to make something of a hypocrite of myself by continuing to talk about it (michiev seems to have taken it more gracefully than I, which is funny considering he/she claims to be the one with the upbringing in question; my apologies for continuing this at all), but there's been some statements made which I feel should be addressed since they're already out in the open and the issue's alive again...JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:3. Incest is unnatural. If you have been brought up in a family that teaches you otherwise, you need to seek psychotherapy and some kind of relief. I am saying this with genuine sincerity. You should not be raised with such a mindset and you should not be having romantic relationships with your relatives. I don't mean to bring up old issues, but I am being earnest in saying that you need to do something about your family.
"Unnatural" is a pretty big statement, and I'm not sure it really holds up here. Given that an attraction for another human being as a mate can be emotional or sexual (both of which are natural aspects of the human condition - the desire for affection and sex), it's difficult to label it unnatural. Especially given that incest aversion is a societal taboo enforced by norms, not biology.
Speaking of which.
Anthropologists aren't necessarily the best people to be making guesses like that about genetics. They're highly-learned individuals - but not necessarily in that area. Their interest in genetics is more on inherited adaptive traits.TOSG wrote:Incest is taboo in nearly every human society that has ever been studied. Some anthropologists even think that there could be a genetic predilection towards revulsion regarding incest.
What studies have been conducted by sociologists, psychologists, and geneticists in general indicate that there is no "incest repulsion" gene. Being creeped out by procreating with a sibling is a result of social situations, not biological. You grow up around someone and they're usually not interesting to you in that way.
Which obviously creates problems in societies with prearranged marriages where the kids to be wed are raised together from childhood.
Anyway, if you didn't grow up with them, then there's not necessarily any repulsion beyond the societal norm. You're as likely to be as attracted to them as you are to anyone.
Okay, this is true. Not entirely sure "normal children" was the best way to phrase it, but the sentiment is accurate.TOSG wrote:Children of incest are at a far higher risk for developing myriad genetic disorders, compared to normal children.
I think she triggered something, for sure. "Manic mode" is probably as good a title for it as anything.JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:7. If there is a "trigger" that sets off his "manic" mode, maybe it has something to do with the aunt.
I don't think they do. Based on the live chat the other night, they're still talking about keeping it on the web.AM wrote:Hmmmm...<<if the Order only paid us to be on the run>> and
<<...Turn the videos into some sort of documentary>> were two lines that really stood out for me.
When LG first started out and was 'outed' as being fiction a lot of people surmised that it was a publicity stunt or prequil to a movie. References were made to viral marketing and the Blair Witch project. I wonder if the creators actually do have something up their sleeve along those lines.
I can't imagine the Creators would be concerned about it. The idea of calling it a crime in the first place is rather silly when you're talking about people that age.Chelseyrl wrote:Yeah, but under Calif. law, it's statutory (sp?) rape. Unless there is some little side note to that, I don't know if the creators would throw that in (even though the reality is there are plenty of couples in the real world that are 17 &19 or close to that...)oleandereyes wrote:I think that jonas and bree are definitely hooking up while daniel is away at the beach.. i think its a pretty obvious opportunity.. and the whole rolling around in the snow movie set it up perfectly. i just don't want too much drama of daniel getting all jealous.. he should just get distracted by the aunt and forget about bree.
It couldn't be since it develops in tandem with our time and we've communicated with them on several occasions.autumneternal wrote:I think he meant that he wished that the Order paid them to stay on the run.longlostposter wrote:2) The Order paid (repeated twice) them to stay on the run forever??? (WTF?)
That's not what I meant by my statement reallylonglostposter wrote:If this whole thing turns out to be a documentary, I'm going to scream really, really, really loud.autumneternal wrote: I get the feeling that he's enjoying the documenting aspect of this .
I think I'd be pissed as well if it turned out to be just a big documentary.
I say NO to cop-out endings!
It wouldn't bother me unless one or the other was an a*****e (and if it's my family we're talking about, the chances are pretty good for that). If they were both decent individuals, though, and I loved them, I'd be very happy for them.BTStars wrote:Well, how would you feel if your best friend hooked up with your aunt, regardless of age.Lurker wrote:Why's that?BTStars wrote:I think it would be kinda icky/creepy if Daniel hooked up with Jonas's aunt.
Seemed sober to me. Sure, he was cheerful, but not in a robotic gangsta way.Sami wrote:could Daniel have been drinking... He seemed a bit like when he was all drugged up and happy about spinart and pizza
Other than avoiding women, I don't see another way out.parakeet100 wrote:Besides, the pursuit of "hot girls" got him in trouble in the first place. You'd think he would have figured that out by now.
Guys, taunting isn't necessary. I really don't see how michiev got hit with the "troll" label. He/she is operating with more civility than those who seem to have taken exception with what he/she said.joygasm wrote:How's the incest working out for you? Is your cousin your brother?michiev wrote:Please will you stop referring to me as a troll. I posted that with NO intention of insulting anyone or making any fights okay?AM wrote:She was responding to a troll who claimed that her family routinely pracitced incest. The incest thing came up because some still believe in the Luke and Leya theory re: Jonas & Bree and some want them to 'hook up'. It would sure give a whole new meaning to 'walk of shame' eh?3. @_@ where did that come from?
Play nice, people.
Thanks.joygasm wrote:Nice! ROFL!!Lurker wrote:I think she triggered something, for sure. "Manic mode" is probably as good a title for it as anything.JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:7. If there is a "trigger" that sets off his "manic" mode, maybe it has something to do with the aunt.
Glad to be of service.michiev wrote:Robotic gangsta ...that made me laugh
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"In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, incorrect, inaccurate, absurd, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others."Chlowee wrote:what's a troll ?
Just so you dont have to go through the pains of typing he/she all the time . Im a girlLurker wrote:Guys, taunting isn't necessary. I really don't see how michiev got hit with the "troll" label. He/she is operating with more civility than those who seem to have taken exception with what he/she said.joygasm wrote:How's the incest working out for you? Is your cousin your brother?michiev wrote:Please will you stop referring to me as a troll. I posted that with NO intention of insulting anyone or making any fights okay?AM wrote:She was responding to a troll who claimed that her family routinely pracitced incest. The incest thing came up because some still believe in the Luke and Leya theory re: Jonas & Bree and some want them to 'hook up'. It would sure give a whole new meaning to 'walk of shame' eh?3. @_@ where did that come from?
Play nice, people.
Thanks.joygasm wrote:Nice! ROFL!!Lurker wrote:I think she triggered something, for sure. "Manic mode" is probably as good a title for it as anything.JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:7. If there is a "trigger" that sets off his "manic" mode, maybe it has something to do with the aunt.
Glad to be of service.michiev wrote:Robotic gangsta ...that made me laugh