The Equinox [9/22/06]

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For some reason, this whole thing reminds me of Aleister Crowley's book, Moonchild.

Her ritual is most likely sexual in nature. The uneducation person's conclusion would be that she's going to be the bvictim of the cliché "virgin sacrifice" - this is an intentional red herring playing on that media stereotype of the occult and on Crowley's popular image - she's obviously preparing for a ceremonial magickal ritual, and it obviously has a sexual element; she has to learn exercises her mother has to teacher. (She is seen doing yoga, I suspect these exercises are tantric exercises) The 23rd lonelygirl15 video, where Bree goes on a random tangeant about Pluto and Antarctica (Yuggoth and the Mountains of Madness, anyone) and arbitrarily mentions that her schoolmates said that she is from a star, along with the tag cephalopod, immediately set me off.

Blood is a motiff in this ritual. As pointed out, the Enochian word spelled the Sanskrit word for blood. She got some sort of shot and is taking iron pills. Various indigenous beliefs believe meunstral blood to be the female's life essence and it plays a major part in magical rituals. Kemlite, an bvious insider posing as a fan, posted a random comment about Abramelin and the Enochian language a couple of days. Abramelin oil is a key ingredient in cakes of light, a key ingredient of some of Crowley's rituals - another key ingredient is "blood of the moon" (muentral blood) or "blood of a child" (semen) - Rembmer Cassie's second clue about spilling blood of children? If these guys are seriously versed in their Crowley, they're not just being inappropriately creepy. (Inappropriately bawdy, perhaps)

Today is the equinox, and by coincidence, it's the 23rd. 23s have been showing up numerous times throghout my investigation of this thing - there's at least one 23 on Bree's MySpace. I'm sure we'll get details on the equinox ritual, or something will happen today.

Anyway, getting back to Crowley's moonchild - Daniel is DanielBeast, (The Book of Daniel - The Beast) if this is a hint, he is "The Beast", ie: Crowley. Daniel perhaps is an occultist as well, and is trying to save Bree from the "bad" occultists. The ritual? To impregnate Bree with a moonchild. (Bree = Breed?)

Some of Crowley's rituals are concerned with the creation of a "moonchild" or homonculus - a magical child. This is related to the start of the Aeon of Horus - the Aeon of the Child. (as opposed to previous aeons, the Aeon of Isis and the Aeon of Osiris) The plot of one of Crowley's novels, "Moonchild", revolves around an attractive young female protagonist, and a white magick user modelled after Crowley fighting a cabal of black magick users, both of whom are trying to impregnate her with a Moonchild. (If Daniel is supposed to be Crowley, and he's trying to bang Bree, I'd say there's a plot correlation) In the Cthulhu mythos there are creatures called Moon beasts. There's a subplot of The Invisibles that sort of combines these two concepts, in which sinister elements of the British government were attempting to create a Moonchild through magical ritual - The Monster of Glamis was actually a Lovecraftian moonbeast-type creature and the result of such an attempt. And Princess Diana was actually an avatar of the goddess Diana, and was another part of such attempts. I'm going off on a tangeant, but for some reason, I was immediately reminded o that subplot by this whole thing.

Further correlation to Lovecraft; In the Cthulhu mythos, it was John Dee, the originator of Enochian, who first translated the Necronomicon into English.

Edit: Oh, and to further correlate as much wackiness as possible, another person who's cosmology revolves around secret conspiracies by the british royal family involving alien breeding is David Icke. Icke thinks all of the politicians in the world are part of an ancient magical alien dragon demon angel vampire fairy elf god bloodline. He is a very amusing crackpot. (WHO IS DEFINITELY ON TO SOMETHING)
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BreeSmells wrote:
Kemlite randomly mentioned both Abramelin and Enochian a couple of days ago.
What is this, a race? lol.
You misunderstood me - I'm 90 percent sure Kemltie is an insider. I think you'tre in the right direction.
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BreeSmells wrote:It would be kind of funny to see us go deeper into this but be way, way off base. However, I think a few things are coming together, strangely.
Aenigmatron, nice work with that and chartreuse is a reddish color like blood right?

I've never heard of those shots, it could be. But wow, that's an extreme thing to do to the girl...


nope, chartreuse is a lime greenish sort of color, nothing like blood. not everything can be bloody!
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As I said before - the equinox was on the 22nd in CA not the 23rd. It was the 23rd in England (UT)
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As I said before - the equinox was on the 22nd in CA not the 23rd. It was the 23rd in England (UT)
Yeah, and if you look -- it was posted on September 22nd.
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so this is sort of random, and somebody probably already noticed it, but im going to say it anyways.

on Bree's myspace (lonelygurl15) it says in her "General" section that she had a friend who was killed when he was 23 by an angry mob in africa.

the age just popped out at me, so I don't know. check it out.
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tcandew wrote:ok, I thought Bree didn't discuss her religion outright? why has this changed out of nowhere, and why is she using terms (biblomancy) like we already know what they mean?

she gives us no background and all of a sudden we are supposed to know what this stuff means?
That was EXACTLY my first thought when I saw the Equinox vlog! What is this change in the "rules" all of a sudden?!
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TheFatLady wrote:
tcandew wrote:ok, I thought Bree didn't discuss her religion outright? why has this changed out of nowhere, and why is she using terms (biblomancy) like we already know what they mean?

she gives us no background and all of a sudden we are supposed to know what this stuff means?
That was EXACTLY my first thought when I saw the Equinox vlog! What is this change in the "rules" all of a sudden?!
I totally get what you're saying. I think it's the Creators trying to drop clues, but I don't think they're doing it right. One of the great things (at least to me) about the LG15 mystery is that it's seemingly innocent, and then you notice all these clues popping up. Lately, with the Equinox vlog and the end of the Driving Blog, it was like basically saying, "Here are some more clues. Have fun Googling!" While we all appriciate clues, I would have rather found little ones in buried in the seemingly normal vlogs.

It would have been perfect if they wouldn't have mentioned anything, then at the very end of it she could have addressed Daniel. "Sorry, Daniel, but I have to do something with my parents because of the Equinox. It's very exciting, blah, blah, blah, biblomancy, blah, blah, so I can't sneak out with you tonight. Sorry, hope you understand."

Just my two cents.

But oh well -- I love Bree anyways.
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katiegirl15 wrote:so this is sort of random, and somebody probably already noticed it, but im going to say it anyways.

on Bree's myspace (lonelygurl15) it says in her "General" section that she had a friend who was killed when he was 23 by an angry mob in africa.

the age just popped out at me, so I don't know. check it out.


no, it says she likes this photographer who that happened to, she didn't know him personally. i never really add my own thoughts on these forums, i just tend to correct people who say wrong things. that could just be coincidence, with the 23 thing?
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xrockette19x wrote:that could just be coincidence, with the 23 thing?
That's kind of the point of "23".
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TheNunOwnedGoat wrote:Lately, with the Equinox vlog and the end of the Driving Blog, it was like basically saying, "Here are some more clues. Have fun Googling!" While we all appriciate clues, I would have rather found little ones in buried in the seemingly normal vlogs.

I heartily agree. It probably is just the Creators getting sloppy in their hurry to get clues out there, but considering how much fun viewers seem to be having in picking apart the tiniest aspects of these 3-minute vids (there are PAGES of speculation on what brand of nail polish bottle is lying partially-exposed on her desk in "Equinox!), moving more subtly ahead would have been a better move. Would have made for a better-crafted "film" as well as more satisfying puzzles.

So, Creator dudes and dudettes, take note: Your fans respond most consistently, and exert their most massive amounts of entertainment energy, when 1) you give them subtle incongruities [e.g. Crowley above the mantlepiece of Miss Fresh And Clean] to treat as puzzles, and/or 2) you throw in a little hint of the dark side [e.g. Crowley again, as well as out-of-nowhere question about what "happened" to an unknown girl named Cassie]. Get on the ball and deliver more of these!
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I wholeheartedly disagree.

This video shows that the Crowley reference isn't just meant to be a hint of some lame horror subplot of a lame romance story that's using Crowley as an avatar of the generic Satanists/occultists that appear in B-movies. These are people who actually sort of know what they're talking about and they're mercilessly dangling us along. It's awesome.

Keep up the good work, creators.
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xrockette19x wrote:that could just be coincidence, with the 23 thing?
There used to be a long tradition (maybe still is, though I'm not much connected to screenwriters any more) of putting the number 23 in various places in TV and film scripts as a subtle reference to the cult classic Illuminatus!, a trilogy of novels by Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea. Since the LG15's Creators are now known to be budding Hollywood types, they could just be following this insider's practice.

Hm-m-m--then again, the Illuminati were an ancient secret society that also might have a religious branch . . .

Clearly, this whole LG thing is making me lose my mind.
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TheFatLady wrote:Clearly, this whole LG thing is making me lose my mind.
Don't worry -- it's happening to us all.
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Sfonzarelli wrote:I wholeheartedly disagree.

This video shows that the Crowley reference isn't just meant to be a hint of some lame horror subplot of a lame romance story that's using Crowley as an avatar of the generic Satanists/occultists that appear in B-movies. These are people who actually sort of know what they're talking about and they're mercilessly dangling us along. It's awesome.

Keep up the good work, creators.
Uh, okay, then. Creators, give us more of everything. :D
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