The morning after...what???

Skunkwaffle · Post by **Skunkwaffle** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:53 am

Inigo wrote:Maybe so but remember everything in this show is done for a purpose.

Sorry Inigo, but I'm gonna have to disagree with that.

There are way too many loose ends to be tied up for everything to have had a purpose.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:18 am

While true that everything hasn't been for a purpose, from a writing or directorial perspective, you'd arrange a scene like that to convey a certain idea. This is different from plot elements that are never explored or resolved. Connotatively speaking, everything about the scenario was set up to suggest that they fucked.

If they didn't, then it's quite a bait and switch.

oxdeltaxo · Post by **oxdeltaxo** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:21 am

Lurker wrote:While true that everything hasn't been for a purpose, from a writing or directorial perspective, you'd arrange a scene like that to convey a certain idea. This is different from plot elements that are never explored or resolved. Connotatively speaking, everything about the scenario was set up to suggest that they fucked.

If they didn't, then it's quite a bait and switch.

Always more than one way to get your rocks off, speaking from personal experience it rarely ever results in sex right after the first kiss. Maybe a lil bit of mutual pleasuring but hardly ever sex till at least second or third "get together."

currentevent · Post by **currentevent** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:30 am

From the way Jonas was acting, not just the fact he was in her bed and shirtless, I get the impression he just got laid. Or maybe he's just really glad that they have Bree back. Who knows, but I get the impression they had sex.

Spades · Post by **Spades** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:39 am

Does Bree's idiot song mean that much to her that she would use her body as a tool to escape?

She has done some crazy shit before, but is she really that crazy?

But then again, her last personal vlog was pretty warped...

I'm 50/50 on this. The only reason I care is that if Bree did sleep with him to get him off guard, then she may be lost. As in Syd Barett lost.

Shine on Bree, shine on you crazy... whore.

Inigo · Post by **Inigo** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:25 pm

Ok maybe they didn't engage in sexual intercourse but one thing I am 100% sure of: Jonas has seen Bree do the full frontal. He woudn't knowingly walk in on her in the shower if he hadn't.

And walking in on her with a camcorder? what if she WAS in the shower?

"Surprise candid camera!"

staticmorning · Post by **staticmorning** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:38 pm

if she WAS in the shower, he would have seen her silohetted (i cant spell that) in the light so he wouldnt have opened the shower curtain (at least not on camera).

consideration · Post by **consideration** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:49 pm

I took some screencaps of the shirt she was wearing the night before and the pink shirt on the bed, and it's obvious that they aren't the sam.e I'd post them, but my Photobucket isn't being very agreeable.

Charles Phoenix · Post by **Charles Phoenix** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:44 pm

for the arguements about the shirt... its more believeable to think she changed into PJs and a cami like most girls before she went to sleep... which is also before they did whatever they did so teh shirt wound indeed end up on the headboard...

Spades · Post by **Spades** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:54 pm

I do not think we will get a clear answer any time soon at all, mainly because Bree is too crazy and possibly too far away to throw in her two cents.

It might be the Creators want to see what we want. It worked for Sarah.

StirringthePot · Post by **StirringthePot** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:24 pm

The pink shirt and Jonas' behavior for the last several weeks have me feeling highly suspicious.

The pink shirt is the same color as the one that Sarah wore in 'Bedside Manner.'

Jonas has been pissy and sarcastic... more superficially angry than truly upset and worried about Bree's well-being.

Here's my hypothesis:

The last nine months have all been part of the HoO's massive plot to get Jonas and Bree together. Jonas is trait positive for the high ribozyme levels as well, and that the aim all along has been to produce a ribozymey baby (what some people are calling a 'ceremony baby.'

Sarah's whole purpose has been to drive a wedge between Bree and Daniel.

The only way for Daniel to test out such a hypothesis would be to do some cyber-sleuthing on-line to get some independent data (not supplied by Jonas himself or whatever stuff had been planted by who knows who in attics or bunkers) on Jonas' whole family.

And if Sarah is as connected to this plot as I think she is, Daniel wouldn't be able to ask Taylor with the mad cyber skillz to help.

Of course this is just my paranoid hypothesis at this point. Otherwise I'd be posting it to the DB chat.

Anyone else thinking along these lines?

betz28 · Post by **betz28** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 5:50 pm

i think..no sex and bree is still order

Samara · Post by **Samara** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:48 pm

There are always other things they coulda done besides sex that would put them in bed with shirts off...
Heavy petting for one...that sorta thing.

All roads lead to Rome.

No man says "Last night was amazing" while sitting on a girl's bed in his boxers with that goofy look on his face without having liberated some of his soldiers at some point along the way. That's sexual activity, boys and girls. it might not necessarily mean PIV sex took place...but there were definitely some happy moments.

blade8r · Post by **blade8r** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:12 pm

well sex or no sex. she did break her purity bond.. i think.

as a member of HoO. she's was sleeping with the enemy.

sidewalkflight · Post by **sidewalkflight** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:26 pm

blade8r wrote:well sex or no sex. she did break her purity bond.. i think.

as a member of HoO. she's was sleeping with the enemy.

That might not even matter. The purity bond may very well have nothing at all to do with sexual purity.

If they had sex, honestly, I'm wondering if this could be the end of Jonas as we know it. Once Bree snaps out of it and realizes what she did... what he let happen... I doubt she could ever forgive him or be around him, or what Daniel would do. I mean, personally I have nothing morally against what they did, but I think Bree would.