Lonelygirl15

Flauta, relax!!

It's all about brainstorming.... we should post all that comes to mind.

I haven't seen an interpretation like yours before!

It makes sense... maybe we are being too literal about this poem.

vertigo wrote:

lordgreystoke422 wrote:Yoda says "Mmmmm Anger I sense...clouded by the Dark Side are you..for the answer look inside self.... hole in your body I did put...
::Yoda resheathes his Light Saber::

I'm loving you like whoa right now.

Oh...in that case...my phone number is.... 504-2##-####

I think it will all fall into place very soon...we're missing too much information for anything to be obvious.

...the pulse of the doe-eyed child may cease
but cassie does not rest in peace.

weird...


this child may die
maybe she will, maybe she wont
but either way
cassie is still not going to rip.

I was trying to find the post where someone mentioned the possibility of another religion (most likely Christianity) actually being the enemy of Bree... someone who finds her religion to be Satanic and evil and gets extreme and tries to kill her.

I was wondering if perhaps Cassie herself is a Christian, given all the Biblical references... Not necessarily saying that Cassie would be the Christian to kill Bree, but it's interesting that she uses a Christian motif for her clues rather than a Crowley-cultist theme. In the loveline radio call Cassie said she was Christian, or at least she read the Bible every day.The Numbers page, the HOLY BIBLE in the background of the poem, Bible verses, Moses... if it was a cult ritual that killed her... why does she seem to focus on Christian religious objects? Or perhaps she is Jewish, given that there weren't any New Testament references that I'm aware of.

It would be intriguing if Cassie says "Bree lies" because she doesn't agree with Bree's religious beliefs...

Something to think about I guess; just throwing that out there.

Luke 11:17 is in the New Testament

Jengels2002 wrote:Luke 11:17 is in the New Testament

My fault!

Apologies if this has been mentioned before:

When Moses comes down from the mountain where he's just received the Ten Commandments, he finds that the Israelites have made a golden calf and started to worship Ba'al. Aaron, his brother and the high priest, had given in to the people's demands and constructed an idol to a strange god (YHWH was not pleased).

Moses flips out, crushes the commandments, and cries out for those who love God to come to him. All the Levites (the tribe of priests, including Aaron), respond.

He tells them,

'Arm yourselves each of you, with his sword. Go through the camp from gate to gate and back again. Each of you kill his brother, his friend, his neighbour.' The Levites obeyed and about three thousand of the people died that day."(Exod. 32: 27-28)

eta: link: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?bo ... version=31


edit yet again: I wonder if this could be some sort of word puzzle? Rather than describing the relationship of cassie to the story, it's telling us where to look for the next clue? I also tried to search google images to see if there are any obvious paintings or sculptures of the golden calf or moses that would fit the first lines of the poem. Nada so far. Miriam, the sister of Moses, was a priestess of sorts, and she's never mentioned as having lovers or husbands, but somehow I doubt that's relevant here. *brainstorms*

According to Crowley...

"The Beast is the Core of the mind, the source of Desire and wanting for experience."

So, maybe the virgin and the beast are the same person. Bree the innocent virgin with beastly carnal desires.


My degrees are in Mathematics and Statistics. Where are the English majors???

Hey I have been lurking for a little bit now, but I have read almost all 30 pages of this thread. I think it was mention before, but the line "sword of hate" strikes me as being a metaphor. Perhaps for rape. It could mean anything from Daneil (the possible beast) having raped Cassie and will try and rape Bree to something about rape at the "ceremony." I also liked the idea that someone (sorry I have read too much to actually remember who said what) got from Crowley about a young innocent boy being the ideal sacrifice.

As for the whole split-personality thing I think it is completely plausible. I am a psych major and from what I have studied about Dissociative Personality disorder it sounds like this might be the case.

Enough of this, I really need to go study. Why is this so addictive?

Eternal Tears of Sorrow lyrics

http://www.song-teksten.com/song_lyrics ... _of_chaos/

I don't know if Cassie is quite this angry though...

Hey hey hey, check this out!

16And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife. 17If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.

18Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

19Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death.

Exodus 22:16-19

Even fits with the image file changed name (ex22 or something like that?).

"Maid" is translated "virgin" in most texts. Since I used KJV (Cassie's Bible of choice), it's this way.

Am I a trout?



http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... &version=9;

Between the virgin and the beast
Moses armed the evil priest,

Edit...siiigh, yes, yes I am redundant.

(I apoligise if this has already been mentioned)

-The thing I find most striking about Cassie's poem is that it's written, for the most part, in the style of a shakespearian sonnet, the only diffirence being the rhyme scheme- standard sonnets are not simply lines of couplets as Cassie's poem demonstrates, but more something along these lines:

between the virgin and the beast
to kill me with his sword of hate
moses armed the evil priest,
if help again will come too late.

warns luke eleven seventeen
The cost is not just mine to bear,
of dangers now and ever been.
we win we live we die we share.

revelation starts the first,
this is not a game or show.
at dawn you'll rise to do your worst.
the stakes are high and you must know:

the pulse of the doe-eyed child may cease.
but cassie does not rest in peace.


Yeah, I know, it's stupid, and it's probably nothing, but I just thought it was worth mentioning. Anyway, my version flows better. XD

Maybe...the pulse or heart of this doe-eyed child or innocent child or VIRGIN child may cease meaning losing her virginity not of her own will.

Thoughts?

lordgreystoke422 wrote:

FunkyMonkey wrote:Random Thoughts

Tying this all back to the ceremony which will take place, why is Bree taking iron pills for the ceremony?


Alsi what if Cassie has been through the ceremony and whatever happened to her will happen to Bree. We can save the doe eyed girl(bree) but it is not going to have Cassie RIP, instead we must stop those who perform the ritual. it is not about saving Bree but instead stopping it from ever happening again.

When Bree started asking Daniel about Cassie, maybe she knows that Cassie was a part of their "religion", and she was trying to see if Daniel had heard any rumors or knew anything?

I think that she is blood doping... Iron pills are taken in conjunction with Erythropoietin shots(which are given in the upper arm at times..think bandage) to increase red blood cell count. This would make her less woozy after a willing blood sacrifice and able to continue the ceremony..

I went back to the third Bree blog to refresh my memory about something she said that was pretty dark for an early post.
"The ancient Romans were the Western world's only known cannibals. At the height of the Roman Empire, one of the greatest delicacies was flesh cut from a live slave who was in the room to watch himself being eaten."

She's blood doping so that she can take being eaten alive and her "pulse may cease" if she doesn't have enough red blood cells.

Just a thought...