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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:03 pm
by Broken Kid
I think this is setting up Bree's mom to be a much more important figure. All along, we thought it was the dad, but perhaps her mom's going to be the one who is leading Bree into something, and maybe her dad will save her... all random theories...

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:03 pm
by cuseguy85
what is the interactive part, going to see the play, visting her parents schools or doing more research?

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:04 pm
by Cuddlebunni
so she writes.. "it all started in england" referring to her parents relationship... could this also be significant in another way... something else that started in england???

... no weird tags on youtube as of yet.. but they are definently steering away from youtube (with the whole preview thingy of this vid)

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:06 pm
by Cuddlebunni
a bit about the play


The play concerns the misadventures and musings of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern, two minor characters from William Shakespeare's Hamlet who are friends of the Prince, focusing on their actions while the events of Hamlet occur as background. Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead is structured as the inverse of Hamlet; the title characters are the leads, not minor players, and Hamlet himself has only a small part. The duo appears on stage here when they are off-stage in Shakespeare's play, with the exception of a few short scenes in which the dramatic events of both plays coincide. In Hamlet, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are used by the king in an attempt to find out about Hamlet's motives and to plot against him. Hamlet however mocks them derisively and outwits them, so that they, rather than he, are killed in the end. Thus from Rosencrantz and Guildenstern's perspective, the action in Hamlet does not make much sense. By contrast, the Player, also a minor character from Hamlet, seems to know a great deal about theatrical conventions and Hamlet in particular, despite being a character in the play himself.

The two characters, brought into being within the puzzling universe of the play, by an act of the playwright's creation, and those they encounter, often confuse their names, as they have interchangeable yet periodically unique identities. They are portrayed as two clowns or fools in a world that is beyond their understanding; they cannot identify any reliable feature or the significance in words or events. Their own memories are not reliable or complete and they misunderstand each other as they stumble through philosophical arguments while not realizing the implications to themselves. They often state deep philosophical truths during their nonsensical ramblings, however they depart from these ideas as quickly as they come to them. At times one appears to be more enlightened than the other; however this position is traded-off throughout the course of the drama.

After the two characters find themselves witnessing a performance of the Murder of Gonzago, they take a boat to England with the troupe, are ambushed by pirates and lose their prisoner before resigning themselves to fate.

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:06 pm
by cuseguy85
Cuddlebunni wrote:so she writes.. "it all started in england" referring to her parents relationship... could this also be significant in another way... something else that started in england???

... no weird tags on youtube as of yet.. but they are definently steering away from youtube (with the whole preview thingy of this vid)
It seems like they are trying to encourage more ppl to get in on the forums or something. Maybe they want more ideas for upcoming episodes since comments have caused past plot changes, i.e bree and daniel's relationship

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:08 pm
by Cuddlebunni
cuseguy85 wrote:
Cuddlebunni wrote:so she writes.. "it all started in england" referring to her parents relationship... could this also be significant in another way... something else that started in england???

... no weird tags on youtube as of yet.. but they are definently steering away from youtube (with the whole preview thingy of this vid)
It seems like they are trying to encourage more ppl to get in on the forums or something. Maybe they want more ideas for upcoming episodes since comments have caused past plot changes, i.e bree and daniel's relationship
I agree.. that is probably the case.

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:08 pm
by Charlotte Eve
Definitely seems as though the interaction now starts: pointing towards the fact that we are the characters in this play, and Hamlet is the LG concept.

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:09 pm
by ogami1972
bree keeps erasing the comments on youtube. people are upset, and i think rightly so. posting on revver first was one thing, but some fans can't use revver. This is rude, and i think the creators should not be rude to us. :x

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:10 pm
by ghostvoices
Could her talking about the two characters dying at the end of the play be a reference to her and Daniel?

Also, she talks about them spending all of their time arguing instead of actually doing something about it. Sounds like a veiled reference to her and Daniel's situation. Maybe she's trying to send a message to Daniel, that they should stop fighting about her ceremony and actually do something about it???

I noticed she focused on Gildenstern and Rosencrantz as two characters who have very little parts in the play, but are the main characters in another. Paul and Andrea? Maybe they will play a bigger role somehow?

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:11 pm
by Cuddlebunni
ghostvoices wrote:Could her talking about the two characters dying at the end of the play be a reference to her and Daniel?

Also, she talks about them spending all of their time arguing instead of actually doing something about it. Sounds like a veiled reference to her and Daniel's situation. Maybe she's trying to send a message to Daniel, that they should stop fighting about her ceremony and actually do something about it???

I noticed she focused on Gildenstern and Rosencrantz as two characters who have very little parts in the play, but are the main characters in another. Paul and Andrea? Maybe they will play a bigger role somehow?

ooo.. good thinking!! U may be on to something.....

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:13 pm
by cuseguy85
ghostvoices wrote:Could her talking about the two characters dying at the end of the play be a reference to her and Daniel?

Also, she talks about them spending all of their time arguing instead of actually doing something about it. Sounds like a veiled reference to her and Daniel's situation. Maybe she's trying to send a message to Daniel, that they should stop fighting about her ceremony and actually do something about it???

I noticed she focused on Gildenstern and Rosencrantz as two characters who have very little parts in the play, but are the main characters in another. Paul and Andrea? Maybe they will play a bigger role somehow?
Well wouldnt we be the equivalent of R&G since she and daniel are the main characters in teh original, and we are mostly off-stage. So the creators are gonna get us all killed :shock:

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:29 pm
by holiday
is it just me, or has the framed picture on her bookshelf changed a little? i dont know, it looks different to me now. altered, somehow. or maybe its just that it looks so much clearer on revver than on youtube.

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:33 pm
by Charlotte Eve
holiday wrote:is it just me, or has the framed picture on her bookshelf changed a little? i dont know, it looks different to me now. altered, somehow. or maybe its just that it looks so much clearer on revver than on youtube.
looks like there's a bottle in front of it, hair stuff, a drink.. or something similar?

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:34 pm
by widardofodd
The clothes on the floor look like they're laid out, not just tossed. A black skirt or dress and a red something...

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:34 pm
by VickyToria03
I LOVE THIS VEDEO it so cute