There have been 2 deletion issues, Shifty's calls and this. TWJ handled the Shifty situation himself and I had already publicly stated that I deleted the other. This did call me out directly as Panda and Romy weren't involved. That's why I was so sore in the chat, I got caught in the crossfire.Kasdeja wrote:Exactly, he didn't single ANYONE out...and as I recall, there was an issue raised about more than just this incident. I don't know what the other issues were or who they were with, but I read that specifically and I'm sure this was a culmination of different things that he decided to post about. Sure, maybe this incident (which to me seemed a simple misunderstanding and was an innocent action) is what brought about the proverbial final straw, but he didnt' post it solely about this incident or any one moderator. TWJ is known on this site for being fair, those trying to insult him should maybe stick around the site awhile before pointing their own fingers and raising a stink about what they don't seem to truly understand, themselves.Killthesmiley wrote:he didn't single out tiger at allevaB wrote:Whether or not the thread should have been deleted, whether the Op PMs are miscommunicating with the LG creators, or with the players, isn't really the issue. It's TWJ making a sticky with the title "Moderator Abuse" and calling Tiger's integrity into question on a public forum. If he was really concerned with her actions, couldn't he have simply PMd her and the other mods with the change in policy? Why the need for public castigation?
Sorry, smiley, not directed at you...just started off because I agreed with ya.
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There was also the IRC logs getting posted that were deleted, but I wholeheartedly support that one.tigerlilylynn wrote:There have been 2 deletion issues, Shifty's calls and this. TWJ handled the Shifty situation himself and I had already publicly stated that I deleted the other. This did call me out directly as Panda and Romy weren't involved. That's why I was so sore in the chat, I got caught in the crossfire.Kasdeja wrote:Exactly, he didn't single ANYONE out...and as I recall, there was an issue raised about more than just this incident. I don't know what the other issues were or who they were with, but I read that specifically and I'm sure this was a culmination of different things that he decided to post about. Sure, maybe this incident (which to me seemed a simple misunderstanding and was an innocent action) is what brought about the proverbial final straw, but he didnt' post it solely about this incident or any one moderator. TWJ is known on this site for being fair, those trying to insult him should maybe stick around the site awhile before pointing their own fingers and raising a stink about what they don't seem to truly understand, themselves.Killthesmiley wrote:he didn't single out tiger at allevaB wrote:Whether or not the thread should have been deleted, whether the Op PMs are miscommunicating with the LG creators, or with the players, isn't really the issue. It's TWJ making a sticky with the title "Moderator Abuse" and calling Tiger's integrity into question on a public forum. If he was really concerned with her actions, couldn't he have simply PMd her and the other mods with the change in policy? Why the need for public castigation?
Sorry, smiley, not directed at you...just started off because I agreed with ya.
Said the masocist to the sadist, "Hurt me!"
Said the sadist to the masocist, "No."
Said the sadist to the masocist, "No."
As a layman who knew nothing about the other situations and had only read the complaint thread where someone stated there were 'several instances they messaged twj about'...it doesn't seem to call you out and thus isn't seen that way. I don't fault you at all for the thread deletion, for the record, but I also don't appreciate newer forum members coming in and singling out another admin who from what all of us have seen is pretty fair and even tempered. I wasn't in chat, etc. I don't chat, so whatever happens there is null and void since I only concern myself with the fora. To me, the thread deletion thread was nothing to raise a stink over, once we knew what happened, however there seem to be other members here who have 'issues' with other things and have messaged twj about those things previous to this incident.
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DontHaveAClue wrote:She even knows her latin grammar!Kasdeja wrote: I only concern myself with the fora.
Now where is my Clue in front of a brick wall pic?And, Tiger...if someone had made a thread with your name calling you out in such a way as this one, I would have stated similar defenses for you. I consider such an act uncalled for, please don't think I am trying to state things against you for you always seem friendly and fair to me.
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I have accused no one of gamejacking. Many people on this forum however have. Some have accused those who provided valid information in regards to this game, and some others have accused those discussing real information. All in all, it was distracting and needed to be dealt with. In all cases, the request to delete these topics or individual posts came from the PM behind OA. We as mods have acted on behalf of that party.
In regards to the thread started by Killthesmiley that exposed OA's private message about the chat: I was asked to delete that in its entirety, not because it was a fake, but because later contributions to the thread did deteriorate due to the inclusion of invalid information.
I did not delete the post outright at first because I believed Smiley was playing the game. Although OpAhid might have disapproved of the sharing of the information, I had no doubt Tachyon would find it laughable. I believed it was relevant to the game; I made the call that it should stay because I didn't want to see a valid expression of game play on this forum curtailed.
The OA forums are still controlled by the its mods and administrators. The same policies that effect the rest of the LG15 site are in effect here. The OA PM has some say, especially when it comes to directing the game, but the final decision of what happens on the forums remains with its mods. I thought the full out deletion of smiley's post wasn't necessary, even if many of the posts it contained needed to be deleted for the good of the game. Unfortunately, due to the demands on my time in regards to preparing for the chat, I was not able to selectively sort through that thread as was needed. I appolgize to the OA forum moderators for not keeping you abreast of what was going on. If I had, this whole mess could have been avoided.
No mod or admin is guilty of gamejacking. We took actions that we all thought we're in the best interest of the game; remained true to the open nature of the LG 15 forums; and reflected the will of the OA PM. I am guilty of poor communication with the other mods for that I am heartly sorry.
In regards to the thread started by Killthesmiley that exposed OA's private message about the chat: I was asked to delete that in its entirety, not because it was a fake, but because later contributions to the thread did deteriorate due to the inclusion of invalid information.
I did not delete the post outright at first because I believed Smiley was playing the game. Although OpAhid might have disapproved of the sharing of the information, I had no doubt Tachyon would find it laughable. I believed it was relevant to the game; I made the call that it should stay because I didn't want to see a valid expression of game play on this forum curtailed.
The OA forums are still controlled by the its mods and administrators. The same policies that effect the rest of the LG15 site are in effect here. The OA PM has some say, especially when it comes to directing the game, but the final decision of what happens on the forums remains with its mods. I thought the full out deletion of smiley's post wasn't necessary, even if many of the posts it contained needed to be deleted for the good of the game. Unfortunately, due to the demands on my time in regards to preparing for the chat, I was not able to selectively sort through that thread as was needed. I appolgize to the OA forum moderators for not keeping you abreast of what was going on. If I had, this whole mess could have been avoided.
No mod or admin is guilty of gamejacking. We took actions that we all thought we're in the best interest of the game; remained true to the open nature of the LG 15 forums; and reflected the will of the OA PM. I am guilty of poor communication with the other mods for that I am heartly sorry.
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nobackspacebutton wrote:Midd wrote:iamcool wrote:i still say i shud be a mod
i have to second this...
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but he who does not ask to be a mod will be modded!
amen. trolls do not equal mods.
<DTayl> actually i'm the bad sister
<DTayl> i drink, i stay out too late, i swear, i'm mean, i spend too much money and i got a tattoo
<DTayl> Laura turned 9
<DTayl> i'm the bad sister
<DTayl> i drink, i stay out too late, i swear, i'm mean, i spend too much money and i got a tattoo
<DTayl> Laura turned 9
<DTayl> i'm the bad sister
yeh but if i dnt ask how are the big guys up stairs going to know i want to be one ....Danielle wrote:nobackspacebutton wrote:Midd wrote:iamcool wrote:i still say i shud be a mod
i have to second this...
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but he who does not ask to be a mod will be modded!
amen. trolls do not equal mods.
i think a poll shud be made
lolmy name is josh, not iamcool or iam or cool
cooltron5000 is also accepted
My lawyers told me to edit the content of this signature so i didn't get sued
Me and Oobles are 'TWAT's - 'The Worldwide Association of Threadjacking'
cooltron5000 is also accepted
My lawyers told me to edit the content of this signature so i didn't get sued
Me and Oobles are 'TWAT's - 'The Worldwide Association of Threadjacking'
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LonelyGirl 15, OpAphid, MySpace, and My Husband.
CuddleBunni Is My LG15 SoulMate.
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LonelyGirl 15, OpAphid, MySpace, and My Husband.
CuddleBunni Is My LG15 SoulMate.
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Um, I've been around quite a while, thanks. I just gave up on the non-Op forums a long time ago. TWJ may not have named names, but there's only 2 mods on this forum that he could be referring to, and he did state that they were abusing their privileges. I think that's uncalled for.maybe stick around the site awhile before pointing their own fingers and raising a stink about what they don't seem to truly understand, themselves.
