The Infinity Symbol

[alex]

did anyone think it might have been the box for the hidden camera?

in which case, the brand might be a symbol for OpAphid?

that might mean bree's dad used to work for OpAphid?

[anngry]

in which case, the brand might be a symbol for OpAphid?

that might mean bree's dad used to work for OpAphid?

thats what i said in the video thread, i think very much that the symbol is an OP.

if it was infinity as everyone thinks, it would connect, the middle line wouldnt be broken. its a continuous line, thats why it is infinity.. surely the creators wouldnt overlook something like that. there must be something more to it.

[ericski]

there's this also from wiki "...In alchemy, the ouroboros is a purifying sigil. Swiss psychologist Carl Jung saw the ourobouros as an archetype and the basic mandala of alchemy. Jung also defined the relationship of the ouroboros to alchemy:

The alchemists, who in their own way knew more about the nature of the individuation process than we moderns do, expressed this paradox through the symbol of the uroboros, the snake that eats its own tail. ouroboros, has been said to have a meaning of infinity or wholeness. In the age-old image of the uroboros lies the thought of devouring oneself and turning oneself into a circulatory process, for it was clear to the more astute alchemists that the prima materia of the art was man himself. The uroboros is a dramatic symbol for the integration and assimilation of the opposite, i.e. of the shadow. This 'feed-back' process is at the same time a symbol of immortality, since it is said of the uroboros that he slays himself and brings himself to life, fertilises himself and gives birth to himself. He symbolises the One, who proceeds from the clash of opposites, and he therefore constitutes the secret of the prima materia which [...] unquestionably stems from man's unconscious.[3]
bree=cassie=the One and the only one for the Order.
maybe.

[trainer101]

Consolodation of Theories
(Cut from other threads)

INFINITY: In ancient India and Tibet, it represented perfection, dualism, and unity between male and female. In the occult tarot it's linked to magic and represents equilibrium or the balance of various forces. The Ouroborus (a circular serpent biting its tail -- a UN symbol for "Human Settlements") has been found in this shape. In modern times, it became a secular mathematical symbol for infinity in numbers, time or space (eternity).

Ouroboros is an ancient alchemy symbol depicting a snake or dragon [DNA] swallowing its own tail, constantly creating itself. http://www.crystalinks.com/ouroboros.html

O wow oh wow oh wow! Two excellant, loaded videos in a row! I'm excited about the way the series is going and the recent plot developments.

trainer101 wrote:
The Use of Giving Demonic Assistance to entrap
One of the principles (giving tactics) of the spirit world is that if you go to get help from demons, they have a spiritual opportunity to enter into your life in other ways. This involves spiritual laws. People, who have been healed by occult healers, have discovered that it set them up for demonic activity in their life. Of course, it is easy to write this, but often only the victims of occult help, who have already learned the lesson the hard way, believe it.
The ultimate that Lucifer can pretend to give is divinity. Divinity is sometimes symbolized by the Illuminati as an 8 on its side or the infinity symbol. The divine within a hierarchy member is called the High Self. It also goes by the name Dian Y Glas or Blue God in the hierarchy’s parlance. The given names of Joan, Janicot, Jean, and Jonet are popular in generational witchcraft families because they mean the High Self. The cabalistic name for the High Self (internal divinity) is NESHAMAH. According to Illuminati hierarchy beliefs, the High Self can only be communicated to via symbols, music and myth that go through the unconscious mind. In other words, don’t talk to it, show it. This is part of the reason Illuminati witch covens make noise in ceremonies, dance and use objects, they believe these are essential to communicate to their High Self.

That is some awesome research, trainer101. "The given names of Joan, Janicot, Jean, and Jonet are popular in generational witchcraft families because they mean the High Self." Am I being crazy, or does "Jonas" come to mind? His parents might have named him a corrupted form of Jonet rather than a corrupted form of Jonah...

That was my first thought too!

Googled infinity biotech company, found this:

http://www.ipi.com/

But the logo is wrong and they're in Cambridge, MA... but it gave me an idea and I finally found what I was looking for:



Kinda random, but that's just the LG creators style, right?

[storyteller]

Anyone else see a resembalence?

I think this is why Bree was tlaking about ribozymes in the last video.

wikipedia says:

A ribozyme (from ribonucleic acid enzyme, also called RNA enzyme or catalytic RNA) is an RNA molecule that catalyzes a chemical reaction. Many natural ribozymes catalyze either their own cleavage or the cleavage of other RNAs, but they have also been found to catalyze the aminotransferase activity of the ribosome. Investigators studying the origin of life have produced ribozymes in the laboratory that are capable of catalyzing their own synthesis under very specific conditions, such as an RNA polymerase ribozyme [1]. More work needs to be done in this area though, as the polymerase ribozyme does not have enough catalytic prowess: it is able to add up to 14 nucleotides to a primer template in 24 hours until it is decomposed by hydrolysis of the phosphodiester bonds.

if you could control ribozymes you could control DNA (dioxyribonucleic acid)

wiki also says this:

Although most ribozymes are quite rare in the cell, their roles are sometimes essential to life. For example, the functional part of the ribosome, the molecular machine that translates RNA into proteins, is fundamentally a ribozyme. Ribozymes often have divalent metal ions such as Mg2+ as cofactors.
RNA can also act as a hereditary molecule, which encouraged Walter Gilbert to propose that in the past, the cell used RNA as both the genetic material and the structural and catalytic molecule, rather than dividing these functions between DNA and protein as they are today. This hypothesis became known as the "RNA world hypothesis" of the origin of life.

while I don't necessarily think Bree was engineered, this definitely supports the theory that Bree was chosen for the ceremony because of some genetic destiny.

[ericski]

good stuff as always trainer and storyteller. now what are some conjectures about the implications?
one thing occurs to me that if the order uses the cult aspect as a cover for medical experimentation, the watchers really do just watch, gathering data, even if the subject is not under their control. so that there is hope that the study/project may continue later.

[trainer101]

good stuff as always trainer and storyteller. now what are some conjectures about the implications?
one thing occurs to me that if the order uses the cult aspect as a cover for medical experimentation, the watchers really do just watch, gathering data, even if the subject is not under their control. so that there is hope that the study/project may continue later.

My gut feeling is that ALL of the above symbol theories may be correct to some degree.
- The demonic/cult reference as it pertains to the religious aspect of the Order.
- The duality theory as it pertains to the possible Bree = Cassie aspect.
- The biotech reference as it pertains to Bree's dad and whatever roll he plays (likely working for the Order in some degree)
- Also, the RNA/DNA reference as it relates to Bree's genetics or "bloodline" - the likely reason why she is the "Chosen One".
One "all encompassing" symbol.

[storyteller]

I'm not entirely sold ont he cassie/bree theory. I think the creators were just trying to tell us that ciw and the recent itscassie videos are in no way cannon. A way to poke them indirectly...

But I also thought Jonas was evil and Gemma was good, so don't listen to me.


Something I meant to quote in Wiki:

If ribozymes were the first molecular machines used by early life, then today's remaining ribozymes -- such as the ribosome machinery -- could be considered living fossils of a life based primarily on nucleic acids.

I have to wonder if the DNA thing isn't a way to regenerate a specific individual from history. I'm not even gonna guess who, but ( ) there was a similar plot line in Star Trek about the Klingons regenerating thier fallen leader thousands of years after his death by using his genetic material to clone him. This might actually tie in the "infinity" symbol as well.

Perhaps they are regenerating previously existing members of the Order to effectively make them immortal.

Or

They want Bree's specific DNA for something.

Where the ceremony ties into all of this is still a complete mystery to me.

[trainer101]

I'm not entirely sold ont he cassie/bree theory. I think the creators were just trying to tell us that ciw and the recent itscassie videos are in no way cannon. A way to poke them indirectly...

But I also thought Jonas was evil and Gemma was good, so don't listen to me.


Something I meant to quote in Wiki:

If ribozymes were the first molecular machines used by early life, then today's remaining ribozymes -- such as the ribosome machinery -- could be considered living fossils of a life based primarily on nucleic acids.

I have to wonder if the DNA thing isn't a way to regenerate a specific individual from history. I'm not even gonna guess who, but ( ) there was a similar plot line in Star Trek about the Klingons regenerating thier fallen leader thousands of years after his death by using his genetic material to clone him. This might actually tie in the "infinity" symbol as well.

Perhaps they are regenerating previously existing members of the Order to effectively make them immortal.

Or

They want Bree's specific DNA for something.

Where the ceremony ties into all of this is still a complete mystery to me.

I thought about the cloning angle too except we just don't have enough to go on.
I'm not sold on Bree = Cassie either but it's a fun idea to play around with. I don't think we can discard anything yet.
In the "Illuminati Influences" thread I posted an article which may be a decent explanation about the religious/ceremony aspect of the Order. In simplest terms, it's a way to keep the lower levels in line and act as a front for the organization. It's too long to quote in this thread, but you might find it interesting. http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4237

[storyteller]

Trainer- I've really enjoyed reading the things you find. If I had more time (no job, no husband, no family) I would just sit and read through everything you've posted. As it is I've scanned most of it.

I'm starting to see the Order, in some ways, as a parallell to the Vatican. There are a lot of secrets held, and a lot of money to carry out whatever they feel is necessary. It makes me curious about the "Papal line" of the Order.

Somewhere on the link you posted it said something about recognizing other members because it's generational, it's your family and it's your community. I have to wonder if this is generational for a reason.

I can't help it. I'm stuck on this stuff.

[ericski]

wow, trainer, that linked stuff on illuminati is heavy. makes me feel guilty for having fun with it as i am. really, i am a loss....

[trainer101]

Somewhere on the link you posted it said something about recognizing other members because it's generational, it's your family and it's your community. I have to wonder if this is generational for a reason.

I'm starting to think everyone is involved in some way. Mom, Dad, Gemma, Jonas and if not Daniel then maybe his parents (which would explain why he's being watched and how cameras were put in his room "without their knowledge").

[trainer101]

wow, trainer, that linked stuff on illuminati is heavy. makes me feel guilty for having fun with it as i am. really, i am a loss....

When I found that article I couldn't believe how similar it was to the LG15 story. That writer has some more articles about her "life in the Illuminati" but they're all just as long as the one I posted - I just haven't had a chance to read them.

[nobackspacebutton]

So the symbol might mean everything, as Trainer was saying.

I think its safe to think that if Bree's dad worked in genetics, that the symbol stands for that, as it mimics a dna strand, and it also stands for infinity.





*On a side note* Great work to everyone's research!

[Beckers]

My gut feeling is that ALL of the above symbol theories may be correct to some degree.
- The demonic/cult reference as it pertains to the religious aspect of the Order.
- The duality theory as it pertains to the possible Bree = Cassie aspect.
- The biotech reference as it pertains to Bree's dad and whatever roll he plays (likely working for the Order in some degree)
- Also, the RNA/DNA reference as it relates to Bree's genetics or "bloodline" - the likely reason why she is the "Chosen One".
One "all encompassing" symbol.

I agree...It's a logo for a company....logos are meant to encompass everything that they stand for conceptually