Her wild imagination.. and Cassie

Beckers · Post by **Beckers** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:10 am

i could see where she could possibly have split personalities...there was that whole "My stuffed animals are real" thing.
Although I'm so convinced.

kageyuki · Post by **kageyuki** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:24 am

Beckers wrote:i could see where she could possibly have split personalities...there was that whole "My stuffed animals are real" thing.
Although I'm so convinced.

I thought that split personalities do not usually interact with their other parallel selves.

kageyuki · Post by **kageyuki** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:26 am

I believed that split personalities were formed in a person's brain to contradict one or more other personalities that person has, so any interaction between them would usually end up in a heated argument. Not taking advice, as Bree has been observed to do in regards with P. Monkey.

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:36 am

kageyuki wrote:I believed that split personalities were formed in a person's brain to contradict one or more other personalities that person has, so any interaction between them would usually end up in a heated argument. Not taking advice, as Bree has been observed to do in regards with P. Monkey.

no i read a book by a woman who has split personality disorder and some of her personalities worked togethers, but others were "evil" and "demonic" as she called them...
what was the name of that book...something like "the world in my head" or something like that...
she ahd like...100-something personalities.

she has a cute little five year old girl...she was adorable, but the big scary one always attacked her...

sorry

Beckers · Post by **Beckers** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:40 am

Some people will argue that split personalitites actually exists.

kageyuki · Post by **kageyuki** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:47 am

~kelly: I think I'd heard about, or even read an excerpt from, that book... As you recanted your knowledge of the book, I had a feeling of deja vu...

Maybe I had thought that book was mere fiction... I'll keep that title in mind for the next time I head out for the bookstore.

alex · Post by **alex** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 5:50 am

okay so as legit as that sounds, i'm still hoping for bree's psycho ex-friend to show up as a character. hopefully a cute girl too, since gemma stopped posting?

although if the split personallities thing got to a point where bree got a new account as cassie and replied to her own videos, that would be fantastic.

but i always want things to go in a twisted direction

Eekhoorn · Post by **Eekhoorn** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:06 am

I think this imaginary friend theory makes more sence then the splitpersonality one. I 've learned that the first character in a person with multiple personality disorder doesn't usually know about the seccond. Them talking to each other sounds really unreal. The seccond could know about the first and try to supres it. If the first does know of the seccond than that's usually the result of a psychiatrist telling him. He know's there's another character in him, but he doesn't know what he or she does. Also, if it where a multiple personality disorder bree was able to hide it really well. Unless one of the characters has taken over for the whole time, daniel would have noticed her acting strange. I don't believe having an imaginary friend could result in having a split personality.
Split personality occurs in people who've had to deal with real trauma's and couldn't handle them. Instead of dealing with it, they create (uncounsiously) another character, who takes over in rough times. Most of the time the people who have a split personality have had a realy bad childhood.

Now, this is what i remember from my psychologyclass and a documentary about a woman who had several personalitys.
I'm pretty shure they exist however. I believe there's been a lot of academic research about it.

kageyuki · Post by **kageyuki** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:18 am

People (mainly children) can create imaginary friends to "deal with trauma" or whatever may be traumatic to them. So, in a way, having an imaginary friend is almost the same as having a split personality. It's just a very, very, very mild case of it. But as we have seen. Left "unsupervised" something tiny can grow to mammoth proportions, especially in fields dealing with the human mind.

While it may be true that it is most common that one, both, or even all personalities within a schizophrenic mind do not know of each other, once they do the results can be disastrous, being in constant battle; or they just might try to ignore each other as they try to usurp control from the other. It all depends on the person.

I hope no one is taking any of my words as true fact. These are all just my views and not those of anyone else in the LG15 family/community... Unless someone out there actually agrees with me...

Eekhoorn · Post by **Eekhoorn** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:37 am

kageyuki wrote:People (mainly children) can create imaginary friends to "deal with trauma" or whatever may be traumatic to them. So, in a way, having an imaginary friend is almost the same as having a split personality. It's just a very, very, very mild case of it. But as we have seen. Left "unsupervised" something tiny can grow to mammoth proportions, especially in fields dealing with the human mind.

While it may be true that it is most common that one, both, or even all personalities within a schizophrenic mind do not know of each other, once they do the results can be disastrous, being in constant battle; or they just might try to ignore each other as they try to usurp control from the other. It all depends on the person.

I hope no one is taking any of my words as true fact. These are all just my views and not those of anyone else in the LG15 family/community... Unless someone out there actually agrees with me...

I'm not shure if the one could lead to the other. I don't think that just because it has the same causation, it's the same thing. Now the only way i'ld find out about this for shure is to ask my professor, but since it's christmas hollidays, and the next time i see him is when i do my exams, that's not really an option. Now let us be clear about one thing, schizoprhenia isn't the same as having multiple personalitys, i've explained the difference here. http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewt ... c&start=15

kageyuki · Post by **kageyuki** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:47 am

Thanks for the enlightenment, friend.

I should have remembered that, though. My mind's been pretty jumbled up, lately. *sigh* I really do need to take some time to regain some clarity.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:33 pm

Killthesmiley wrote:DARN TOOTIN' ... (darn this language watching..i feel wierd semi-cursing in this board...)

My solution to that weirdness is to just cut out the "semi-" part altogether.

Anyway, Holly: the imaginary friend thing is a good idea. Nice thinking. Similar enough to the second personality thing while still being different, and yet it leaves room for that possibility as well. Perhaps, as you've suggested, Cassie was Bree's outlet for curiosity about the religion, and it eventually had to go away (if all that natural curiosity Bree should have been expressing was put in a "seperate" constructed persona, then that might explain why Bree has been so damn irritatingly naive in the past).

This would also make sense with the timing of the first cassieiswatching video, if they wanted to include those. It came out after Bree started getting her shots, and the day before the "In The Park" video (where the pills were introduced). All the preparation for the ceremony she knew nothing about (along with the medicines she knew nothing about) could have prompted the reawakening of the Cassie friend -- only as a personality Bree didn't realize she was acting out.

Of course, there'd be a problem rationalizing how Bree managed to get back out to the swimming area to make that first CiW video on her own. Still, with three days between "House Arrest" and "In The Park," it could have happened. It's not like it would be the first time she snuck out, or the last, and with a little money she could get a ride.

Also, as alysaface pointed out over in the "Mystery Movies" thread, Bree's interest in secret codes and stuff like that could be another hint.

Anyway, again, it's an interesting idea, and it makes sense with or without CiW (though I like to think of it in terms of "with").

alex wrote:although if the split personallities thing got to a point where bree got a new account as cassie and replied to her own videos, that would be fantastic.

I think the impression we're supposed to have taken from "Bree Phone Home" is that the cassieiswatching videos were from Cassie (or "Cassie," if you prefer). So if Cassie turns out to be Bree's imaginary friend-become-second personality, then that would have already happened (sort of; minus the Bree replying to her own videos thing).

Eekhoorn wrote:Now let us be clear about one thing, schizoprhenia isn't the same as having multiple personalitys, i've explained the difference here. http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewt ... c&start=15

kageyuki wrote:Thanks for the enlightenment, friend.

I should have remembered that, though. My mind's been pretty jumbled up, lately. *sigh* I really do need to take some time to regain some clarity.

Yeah, people get those confused kind of often. I think it might be because of the meaning of "schizophrenia" (from the Greek for "split mind"). They're completely different, though (detecting stimuli not present in reality/having irrational beliefs about reality vs. multiple personas).

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Sun Dec 24, 2006 1:20 pm

Okay, I study psychology, and whether multiple personality disorder even exists is up for debate. However, those who believe it does, report that sufferers of the disorder DO NOT, i repeat: DO NOT, interact between personalities. In other words, Bree would not be able to walk around the track and talk to herself as Cassie.

However, schitzophrenia is a disorder in which people hear or see things that do not actually exist. In that case, Bree COULD interact with Cassie, as she has claimed to. However, that does not mean that Bree = Cassie. It means that Bree believes Cassie is a human separate from herself, that maybe she incorporates traits of herself into subconsciously as an emotional or mental release type of mechanism. It is possible that Bree subconsciously created Cassie as an experiment to represent herself with different traits and perspectives, but that decision would not have been a conscious one and she would not realize that Cassie is meant to represent herself. I cannot stress enough that Bree believes Cassie is a human individual, which rules out multiple personality disorder, because in that case, Bree would not know Cassie exists.

However, this is fiction so maybe the Creators are just making things up.

layne36 · Post by **layne36** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 1:50 pm

Does this theory remind anyone else of that video about Bree's lazy eye?

In that one she says "Basically when I was three months old it became very clear to my mom and my dad that my left eye had no real desire to enter into a working relationship with my right one. "

Could it be some kind of foreshadowing to another personality? That story always bugged me, it was so random it had to mean more than just how she didn't see eye to eye with her parents.

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:19 pm

layne36 wrote:Does this theory remind anyone else of that video about Bree's lazy eye?

In that one she says "Basically when I was three months old it became very clear to my mom and my dad that my left eye had no real desire to enter into a working relationship with my right one. "

Could it be some kind of foreshadowing to another personality? That story always bugged me, it was so random it had to mean more than just how she didn't see eye to eye with her parents.

Wow, totally forgot about that!

What is Amblyopia (lazy eye)?
Amblyopia, commonly known as lazy eye, is the eye condition noted by reduced vision not correctable by glasses or contact lenses and is not due to any eye disease. The brain, for some reason, does not fully acknowledge the images seen by the amblyopic eye. This almost always affects only one eye but may manifest with reduction of vision in both eyes. It is estimated that three percent of children under six have some form of amblyopia.

It appears that lazy eye has more to do with the brain than the eyes. Wonder if that is relevant?

Link to Lazy Eye info: http://www.strabismus.org/amblyopia_lazy_eye.html