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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:16 am
by EEVEE
I have no idea what I just watched... :?

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:29 am
by autumneternal
EEVEE wrote:I have no idea what I just watched... :?
I guess it's confusing if you haven't been following the threads about SSAlexander of his videos. NA started this thread about suspicious YouTube users, but it ended up focusing only on SSA. Then we discovered in one of his videos, there was a tinyurl link to an image that had a vigenere cipher-encoded message, (which we still haven't figured out because we don't know the key).

Then, soon after we started to try and figure out the message, SSA posted a new video, "Declassified FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE," which seemed to hint at the fact that he planted Daniel's fake ID, or at least knew where it was and was able to pinpoint the general location.

Then "Declassified 01-27-2007" was released and it contained avatars from some of the people who had posted in the original thread about SSA. Trainer started a post about it here. In that video we were told that something would go down tonight at 2300, (11:00), EST.

Then, a few hours after the "Daniel's Missing!" video went up, we got the video from SSA that this thread is about...so yeah.

I have a feeling that I just made it a bit more confusing. :oops:

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:37 am
by dogger1972
The video is a hoax.

Well, not exactly. The video itself is real, it showed up about a year and a half ago on the internet. It is actually footage of an alleged meeting of insurgents in Iraq. The meeting was monitored by a US attack helicopter utilizing night vision targeting. That is why there are targeting crosshairs in the middle of the screen.

The video actually continues after the point at which the SSA video ends. Very, very bad things happen to the men in that field.

Interesting concept, but I doubt it has any validity at all.

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:44 am
by autumneternal
dogger1972 wrote:The video is a hoax.

Well, not exactly. The video itself is real, it showed up about a year and a half ago on the internet. It is actually footage of an alleged meeting of insurgents in Iraq. The meeting was monitored by a US attack helicopter utilizing night vision targeting. That is why there are targeting crosshairs in the middle of the screen.

The video actually continues after the point at which the SSA video ends. Very, very bad things happen to the men in that field.

Interesting concept, but I doubt it has any validity at all.
Well, that explains why we couldn't figure out who's who in it. This means that it might be more symbolic than anything. I predict we'll get another video with more explanation from this SSA character in the next couple of days.

Unless, of course, this video was supposed to be our way of figuring out the key for that encoded message, (I know, I know, I really should let it go...).

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:13 am
by aideen
It looks like the guy who runs off to the left was holding a torpedo shaped thing, or a long mine/bomb

Is that what everyone was saying was a person? Because it just looks like one of those gas cylinders or something

Is there a transcript for it, because I can't hear the words

And maybe it was deliberately used because maybe it has a name, the video, the original, that will help with this code?

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:23 am
by voyboy
dogger1972 wrote:The video is a hoax.

Well, not exactly. The video itself is real, it showed up about a year and a half ago on the internet. It is actually footage of an alleged meeting of insurgents in Iraq. The meeting was monitored by a US attack helicopter utilizing night vision targeting. That is why there are targeting crosshairs in the middle of the screen.

The video actually continues after the point at which the SSA video ends. Very, very bad things happen to the men in that field.

Interesting concept, but I doubt it has any validity at all.
You have no idea how happy I am that you posted this. I was second guessing myself to death trying to type it out and explain it. im not so good with words some times i can be kinda dumb. :smt026

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:46 am
by HyeMew
Are you kidding? This is SHAMELESS. I'm just glad they didn't show the part when the army blows them up, that's from Iraq.
As if there was any doubt SSAlexander was fake, this video should be proof enough. I would hope people conencted to lg15 would never be THAT distasteful.
There's something about the way someone can just upload this OBVIOUSLY military video, and suddenly we have 20 people here jumping to conclusions of like "oh that one is Daniel" and "who is the other guy" and "OMG WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE PLOT?" Unless the Creators own an attack helicopter it's OBVIOUSLY fake people, stop falling for everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:52 am
by impulse
HyeMew wrote:Are you kidding? This is SHAMELESS.
seconded.

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:42 am
by yoruba
How could he be so dumb, using a video that's really well-known and trying to sell it as his own?

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:46 am
by HyeMew
yoruba wrote:How could he be so dumb, using a video that's really well-known and trying to sell it as his own?
I think the real question is HOW COULD ANYONE BELIEVE IT WAS HIS OWN? As I said above, unless the Creators own an attack helicopter.....

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:49 am
by kellylen
tbh I think its more symbolic than anything.

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:52 am
by yoruba
Just wanted to say that the video was deleted right now.

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:56 am
by justwatching
anyways.... the video has been pulled due to its controversial nature, and it says on the profile that it was not Daniel's location. check out ssalexander's youtube profile change

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:57 am
by justwatching
oops, yoruba beat me to it. :lol:

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:26 am
by nobackspacebutton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSciPZp6iIc


Strange how this SSA video says that last night something would happen at 11PM...that might have been when they kidnapped Daniel.