That doesn't make any sense. You're not even really giving a reason why Jules has to be free in order for the cops to be involved in this. The girl had already been missing for over a day with the video of her kidnapping online (under the account of people the Order watches).Esteed wrote:Yes, and there have been a massive amount of other videos that the Order has ignored when really they should have jumped on them. This is probably just another in a long line.
You're trying to reduce the situation to something that it's not. You're talking like Bree was pretending she was on a playground "playing hero." That wasn't the case. In any case, the risk (all they really had to risk at this point: Their lives) was made the moment they headed for Texas. They had to know the Order wouldn't be happy about that.Esteed wrote:No, no it wasn't. This was about Bree trying to play hero without getting all the facts first. Is Jules the new girl? Probably. But a move this drastic cannot, cannot be made on a mere "probably". This risks everything that Bree, Daniel, and Jonas have faught for. This risks the very thing that Bree's father died for. That's too much of a risk.
Esteed, when you have someone completely and utterly at your mercy with the added benefit of their guard down, you don't have to set up an elaborate plan hundreds of miles away in order to get their guard down again. You've already got them. Clearly that's not what was going on here. They had them in Mexico if they wanted them. They must not have wanted them.Esteed wrote:They know this how? They know that the Order took Alex and drove away. That is all they know. Is it possible that Bree is expendable? Yes. Is it likely? Probably. But none of us know that. This whole thing could be an elaborate ruse designed by the Order to get Bree's guard down. A trap. It wasn't smart of them to just assume that Bree is now not important to the Order. There isn't enough evidence to prove that.
How does "They're fucked no matter what" mesh with "... a sacrifice that enables them to continue to fight the Order"? It doesn't. If they're fucked no matter what, it's because they uploaded the video to the Internet. The Order knows their names. They've indicted themselves to the police already.Esteed wrote:I'm not saying killing Jules is a good thing. It isn't. But because of what B&D did, they're fucked no matter what, unless by some miracle the girl they kidnapped decides to trust them. The question is are they going to be bent over by their cellmates, or are they going to make a sacrifice that enables them to continue to fight the Order?
Where does randomly killing Jules fit into that? Out of spite, even though it's not her fault at all?
Esteed, video uploaded to public view of the Internet. Jules' memories are irrelevant. Not that BD&J would know how to make her forget this sort of stuff if they had drugs like that anyway.Esteed wrote:I'd like to amend my statement. There is one other option. We know of a certain drug that can have an affect on memories, right? They'd safely be able to let Jules go if she forgot all about this little disaster...
Esteed has more than once in this thread.Haether wrote:who said anything about killing her? jesus...