0056 I Lied to Daniel [10/23/06]

Cuddlebunni · Post by **Cuddlebunni** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:13 pm

okay so do only iguana owners get to have all the cabbage head fun? Cuz my wabbit looooooves cabbage. Can we join the (dare i say it) cabbage cult???

And btw, the cabbage head pic made me choke on my water. Funny stuff.

lordgreystoke422 · Post by **lordgreystoke422** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:00 pm

seige56 wrote:
spaciegirl wrote:
Sfonzarelli wrote:But the point of 10/12/06 was that it was Crowley's birthday
I guess that's why it was a perfect date to throw us off
edit-
<---- 500 posts of sheer madness
Congrats, spacie! I think you should start a party thread to celebrate!

After which she would then have 1500 posts of sheer madness.

NillaWafers · Post by **NillaWafers** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:14 pm

Wow, this keeps getting more and more complicated. It wasn't real!? Sheesh, I feel really stupid now, haha. I'm glad she's looking at things a little bit more openly now, not "This is my religion, and anything that provides a different view about said religion, needs to be removed from my life"

minsky · Post by **minsky** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:21 pm

I think "DontHaveAClue's" theory on page 7 is pretty much bang on the money. It all seems to fit .Great work putting it all together

JacksAndDouches · Post by **JacksAndDouches** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:30 pm

JerseyJohnny wrote:
JacksAndDouches wrote: question: Why does everyone capitalize the Creators. seems the only religion going on in here is you guys worshipping a couple film makers
HOW DARE YOU blaspheme the Creators!!! You know, you really have to be more tolerant of other religions. Who says YOUR religion is the one we all have to follow?

I can't stand how some self-righteous, hateful BIGOTS come in here and try to tear down a religion they don't understand. Just because you don't understand it why is it EVIL??? We don't eat baby goats and sacrifice human children and we are NOT Satanists!!! Get a LIFE you Looser!!!

How DARE YOU be so intolerant to my intolerancy..ugh GAWD its like everytime you think your safe to just be yourself someone has to put you down

however i noticed you said you dont sacrifice baby goats...well what about the adult ones? huh what about them? adult goats have rights too you know!

PS I bet you Daniel isnt with his friends at all, but scoping out those places in Ontario and AZ!!!!!! I think we cracked the case guys lets pat ourselves on the back!

lordgreystoke422 · Post by **lordgreystoke422** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:14 pm

Sfonzarelli wrote:
JerseyJohnny wrote:
Jeet_DM wrote:Its a trick they are trying to draw out Daniel in to the open with Bree.
I agree!!! If Daniel is smart he won't meet Bree completely alone. He should have his thuggin' friends tail him and keep an eye on him so they have his back. And one of them should have more than a camera, he should have a firearm. I have a feeling that whether Bree is in on it or not, her meeting with Daniel is part of a set-up.

I hope Daniel kills the Satanic High Priest that made that video, the ugly bald guy. He's so ugly, and bald, which is UGLY.
You honestly think Daniel has thuggin' friends?

Daniel's only friends are probably people he knows through World of Warcraft. That's why he's so stalkerishly obsessed with Bree. She's the only girl he's ever been in a room with for more than 5 minutes.

He did take her to parties(something it seemed like he had done before himself) so that tends to suggest that your supposition is at least partially incorrect.

lordgreystoke422 · Post by **lordgreystoke422** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:58 pm

Nobackspace's Signature made me think of this.. What is one of the most significant dates coming up for Bree?
10-26-06 is BreeMas this year....
Just a thought..but that doesn't leave a lot of time for action...
I kinda dismiss this because I think videos are going to continue through December...
But ya never know.

robtomorrow · Post by **robtomorrow** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:44 pm

The first thing I don't understand is why they would postpone the real ceremony and go to the trouble to stage a fake ceremony because of Daniel, Why is Daniel so important?
And now Bree is having a change of heart about participating in the real ceremony, so whats next , is Bree going to reconcile with Daniel and drop out of the ceremony, the Elders and Lucy just disappear, and then go back to proving science wrong?

Fine, then what about all the loose ends? glossed over and forgotten?

I hope the Creators have a plan. Or a plot, I guess I should say.

Flautapantera · Post by **Flautapantera** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:31 pm

robtomorrow wrote:The first thing I don't understand is why they would postpone the real ceremony and go to the trouble to stage a fake ceremony because of Daniel, Why is Daniel so important?
And now Bree is having a change of heart about participating in the real ceremony, so whats next , is Bree going to reconcile with Daniel and drop out of the ceremony, the Elders and Lucy just disappear, and then go back to proving science wrong?

Fine, then what about all the loose ends? glossed over and forgotten?

I hope the Creators have a plan. Or a plot, I guess I should say.

I think the main reason for fooling Daniel was to stop him from being involved in the real ceremony. The actual ceremony is probably much more involved than lanterns and robes, especially since Bree has no idea what she's supposed to do. The Order can't risk having Daniel interrupt the final one, so why not take him out early?

As many have said, Bree will probably lean away from the ceremony but be forced to continue by Lucy and the Order. She's questioning the ceremony now because she's starting to worry about Daniel and what kind of commitment the ceremony truly entails.

spaciegirlreturn · Post by **spaciegirlreturn** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:25 pm

zzzzzz next video. We're done here.

Kimmi-Chan · Post by **Kimmi-Chan** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:26 pm

ok, so I've been gone for a few hours and I have a few things to say, first off, I love Cabbage Head's pic

secondly I'd like to point out that it's very easy to condition a child into following a religion with a fanatical blindness. No matter how wrong the public would consider this, this is what we refer to as "deviant behavior." Now not all deviant behavior is over-whelmingly bad, like throwing a bottle out the window or picking ones nose, but some things are quite serious, and if a cult has from birth to begin brain-washing a child, it's easy work, I mean, (now I'm gonna site some real cults) Charles Manson's "family" was made up of new-comer adults and their children. The children of course were the community's, no one particular mother had any right over her child than anyone else did, but the point is that all of these malleable individuals were influenced to the point of thinking there was nothing wrong with murder.

As far as children and people being raised completely in cult setting I would have to say that "the People's temple," and "branch davidian" come to mind considering both had them.

The people's temple was led by Jim Jones, and he led his 900 + followers to Guyana, where they comitted mass suicide through the drinking of cyanide-laced juice... I think kool-aide. It was a big deal, considereing many of the deaths were children or teenagers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s ... _to_Guyana

The Branch Davidian was in Waco, Texas, and it ended in the deaths of 82 people. It was lead by David Koresh, and they believed that the leader was intitled to having sex with all of the women of the compound, the youngest being 14. Though people saw that there was wrong in teh way that he did things, they allowed him to do them, because he was their religious leader, and was to have complete faith.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kore ... ns_of_Rape
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branch_Davidians

guess that's it for now, I'll let my brain fry for a while

spaciegirlreturn · Post by **spaciegirlreturn** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:35 pm

Only a small number of Mansonites seemed to have little or no remorse... and that was only at the time. I think all of them have expressed regret / remorse since then(except for him..but he's tricky...and he didn't actually commit the murders either). I don't think comparing Bree's religion (whatever the hell it is) to the Manson family is very responsible. I know a lot about that topic. I wouldn't even consider the Manson family to be brainwashed..they were weak-minded individuals..and there were a lot of drugs floating around..and Manson was very charismatic, but I don't think what Bree is going through is similar, in any way, to what the members of the Manson family experienced / participated in. I understand the paralell of the "cult" mentality, but just because both things have been described as a cult doesn't mean they're similar in any other way.

TheFatLady · Post by **TheFatLady** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:33 am

Kimmi-Chan wrote: Now not all deviant behavior is over-whelmingly bad, like throwing a bottle out the window or picking ones nose, but some things are quite serious,

Don't hate me, but I feel compelled to point out that nose-picking doesn't qualify as "deviant," since it's practiced by nearly 100 per cent of humans--all but the 1 per cent of *actually* deviant females whose acrylic nails are so long they'd cause a lobotomy if actually inserted into a nostril. Oh, and not practiced by me, either.

quikstrike98 · Post by **quikstrike98** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:43 am

spaciegirl wrote:Only a small number of Mansonites seemed to have little or no remorse... and that was only at the time. I think all of them have expressed regret / remorse since then(except for him..but he's tricky...and he didn't actually commit the murders either).

Interestingly, Charlie was incarcerated prior to starting up his cult and instigating the murders. At his parole hearing at that time, he warned them not to release him because he was a danger to society. They didn't listen to him.

Roselilith13 · Post by **Roselilith13** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:17 am

Is is just me or does Bree look drugged in this video even more than in the past? Her confusion and slurred words (I remember this was mentioned regarding another video) seem very different from even other video's of sad Bree we have seen. She seems genuinely confused. Maybe She really didn't realize she was betraying Daniel by going along with this because she has been drugged the whole time and they have increased the doses based on how much resistance she is showing?

Also I remember hearing that in scientology and other cults they sleep deprive you to keep you confused and under control, maybe the diet is having a similar affect on Bree?