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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:38 pm
by GoodGollyItsHolly
Romy,

When Gems says: "acknowledge their position and help initiate a dialogue", that you think is the common known meaning? And the acronym is different for the elders or deacons? I could see that as a possibility. Would the last two letters be the only ones with a different meaning?

(forgive me if this has already been gone over, I glanced around to make sure..)

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:57 pm
by romanceismusic
GoodGollyItsHolly wrote:Romy,

When Gems says: "acknowledge their position and help initiate a dialogue", that you think is the common known meaning? And the acronym is different for the elders or deacons? I could see that as a possibility. Would the last two letters be the only ones with a different meaning?

(forgive me if this has already been gone over, I glanced around to make sure..)

I think gemmas version, is what they tell the younger ones and the outsiders....and Op's version is the elders/deacons/outsiders meaning. whats do you mean only ones with different meaning?

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:15 am
by sphinx
sphinx wrote:For those who are just joining, I thought it would be helpful to post what we already know.

A- Analyze
P- Protect
H- Hinder
I- ?
D- ?

Up to this point, from past postings on OpAphid's YouTube profile, we have been given the following information:

The first step toward any solution? ANALYSIS. ANALYZE the data in front of you.

To PROTECT is our greatest purpose, above all others. The importance of PROTECTION is essential to understand before any further progress can be made.

Identifying the enemy allows us to HINDER their actions, which is an effective means of PROTECTION.


In Bree's video Survival Skills she says: "Back in the community, we used the saying "OpAphid." Its an acronym to guide our interactions with strangers, but I think I'll need a little more than that now."

Bree uses the word strangers and OpAphid uses enemy.
I originally started this thread with this information, and for some reason I do not understand, 5 pages of old, mostly random posts have been moved infront of it. It really doesn't help the newcomers like I had intended.

OpA also PM'd me today to confirm that there are different variations of the acronym APHID.

One, innocuous, probably meant for children, when dealing with strangers. The other more sinister, meant for those in The Order, when dealing with enemies.

Hope this helps.

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:36 am
by tigerlilylynn
sphinx wrote:
sphinx wrote:For those who are just joining, I thought it would be helpful to post what we already know.

A- Analyze
P- Protect
H- Hinder
I- ?
D- ?

Up to this point, from past postings on OpAphid's YouTube profile, we have been given the following information:

The first step toward any solution? ANALYSIS. ANALYZE the data in front of you.

To PROTECT is our greatest purpose, above all others. The importance of PROTECTION is essential to understand before any further progress can be made.

Identifying the enemy allows us to HINDER their actions, which is an effective means of PROTECTION.


In Bree's video Survival Skills she says: "Back in the community, we used the saying "OpAphid." Its an acronym to guide our interactions with strangers, but I think I'll need a little more than that now."

Bree uses the word strangers and OpAphid uses enemy.
I originally started this thread with this information, and for some reason I do not understand, a bunch of mostly random posts have been moved infront of it.

OpA also PM'd me today to confirm that there are different variations of the acronym APHID.

One, innocuous, probably meant for children, when dealing with strangers. The other more sinister, meant for those in The Order, when dealing with enemies.

Hope this helps.
The threads were merged becuase there were 2 on the same topic. The posts are ordered chronologically when merged.

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:58 am
by Scalare
romanceismusic wrote:
GoodGollyItsHolly wrote:Romy,

When Gems says: "acknowledge their position and help initiate a dialogue", that you think is the common known meaning? And the acronym is different for the elders or deacons? I could see that as a possibility. Would the last two letters be the only ones with a different meaning?

(forgive me if this has already been gone over, I glanced around to make sure..)

I think gemmas version, is what they tell the younger ones and the outsiders....and Op's version is the elders/deacons/outsiders meaning. whats do you mean only ones with different meaning?
We were all outsiders once, but we were immediately taken to the insiders description of what Aphid means, before even officially having chosen sides. I'm sorry, but that's the reason I find this twist hardly believable.

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:12 am
by sphinx
tigerlilylynn wrote: The threads were merged becuase there were 2 on the same topic. The posts are ordered chronologically when merged.
Hi tiger.

Since this was the "new" section of the boards, I posted what I thought would be an easy summary for new players coming over.

Now it looks like there are many posts going back as far as Sept 29th from the Prologue tacked infront of the new posts this week. If you read through it, it is really hard to understand what exactly is going on from a new player's prospective.

Not trying to be difficult, just not understanding what happened here.

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:35 am
by DontHaveAClue
romanceismusic wrote: I think gemmas version, is what they tell the younger ones and the outsiders....and Op's version is the elders/deacons/outsiders meaning. whats do you mean only ones with different meaning?
That's how I understood Gemma's video too, with my OpAphid-newbie CiW-damaged brains. OpAphid seems to be a generic term for interaction with outsiders. So it doesn't seem too twisted to think that in a mind-controlling Order they would prepare the kids with a game-oriented version, and conceal in the acronym a dreadful meaning for when they get older (if ever they have a chance to get older).

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:15 am
by tigerlilylynn
I think this is an artifact of Oppy being independent at that point and now the creators are having a go at writing some backstory with the concept.

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:55 am
by Pi
(peaks in)

Hi, I'm new and still just trying to catch up. But, has anyone tried,

"indoctrinate"


Pi

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:25 am
by katz31
Pi wrote:(peaks in)

Hi, I'm new and still just trying to catch up. But, has anyone tried,

"indoctrinate"


Pi
That one really makes sense, Pi! I sent her a message asking about this one, so we'll see.

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:33 am
by Cabby
i should probably take this to the general discussion thread.
I get the two versions, and I guess I'll even go so far to say I accept them...
tell me where are the videos.

On the LG site, there have been more posts lately than normal. We're seeing approximately an update per day as of late.

So then, for those of you who are PM-ing Opa... tell her to get some hustle and post something.

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:46 am
by deagol
katz31 wrote:
Pi wrote:(peaks in)

Hi, I'm new and still just trying to catch up. But, has anyone tried,

"indoctrinate"


Pi
That one really makes sense, Pi! I sent her a message asking about this one, so we'll see.
I emailed her about it 2 days ago (the too long thing was tongue-in-cheek). She read it but never sent a response.
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:27 am
by sphinx
SuperRad wrote:Here is a little clue I have.

I asked OpAphid about hacking into Tachyon's youtube account. It was a very silly question but I was curious and this was the response I got:

"The I in APHID commands that we only attempt such things if we can avoid detection, dear"
This reply from OpA still gets to me, although indoctrinate could fit.

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:39 am
by Ziola
Hmm, that could prove to be very helpful. Now I need to get my thinking cap on....

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:27 am
by Farva
incriminate - yourself never :)