0161 - "Subjects Apprehended" 3/26/07

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:58 pm

I want to say here, it would make perfect sense for DB to be triggered and help out an Orderite here. I've been saying he was brain-washed since the "Miss Me" vid. There is no way in hell that spin-art was recreational activity while being held by OpAphid.

In fact, I've been anxiously waiting to see when he would be triggered.

OTH, if I'm wrong, please pretend you never read this post.

lol

Chelseyrl · Post by **Chelseyrl** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:59 pm

janesalteredstates wrote:This is driving me insane. I have not heard anyone say anyone's name yet and I've watched the video like 10 times

Haha, are you serious? The first time I watched it, I kept hearing "Jonas! Jonas! Jonas!"... don't listen too hard. It's when they're at the gas station.

Chelseyrl · Post by **Chelseyrl** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:01 pm

Shaneener wrote:I don't think Daniel got them.

He was captured, too.

Oppy maybe? Lucy?

OMFG.

I just figured something out.

If the person driving is a woman, could it be LUCY?!?!?!!

It's a man... we've est. this by screenshots.
And Daniel could possibly have helped out considering since Miss Me?, he isn't the same DB that he was before his capture.

*See Longlostposter 's post 2 above me.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:02 pm

janesalteredstates wrote:This is driving me insane. I have not heard anyone say anyone's name yet and I've watched the video like 10 times

Bree definitely says Jonas before each capture.

giddeanx · Post by **giddeanx** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:03 pm

house wrote:What struck me was the fact that there's no slumped bodies in the passenger seat... and we don't know who was actually taken. For all we know, Daniel was chloroformed and left in the men's restroom (or by the dumpster) and Jonas was left by the dumpster. The person driving away might have only taken Bree.

I think they were all picked up in some way. It does say subjects apprehended. The Hunter probably drove the vehicle out of the light so he could drag the kids in. It would be suspicious if he were to drag three unconsious people into his vehicle in the light of the station.

house wrote:I dunno'. I think the person who drives away is a woman, but... short of SheBeast/Tachyon, I'd love to see a teensy woman (based on the arm) muscle DB or Jonas into the trunk.

Im pretty sure its a man the arm hair seems pretty prominent and the fingers and hand are masculine.

K I saw something odd right before daniel groans in slow motion.

It appears to be a man in sunglasses hiding behind that metal wall. In about three frams the thing (man) moves and you see another man walking behind him.

Just seemed odd since its night and all.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:04 pm

robtomorrow wrote:If you read through this thread many people were confused until someone posted the statement by the Creators that this is the first of the "private videos", and people are still confused as to who sees it. Not to mention all the people who haven't been following the discussion on the topic.

I always read every post before posting, rob, so I saw those posts you're referring to - but I only saw three people that expressed anything resembling confusion and they were longtime/regular posters that acknowledged the private transmissions concept in their posts (suggesting to me they were all familiar with the Creators' thread on the subject) and the same or subsequent posts by two of them demonstrated that they actually understood how it worked and who this particular video was by and for.

That's why I was confused at there being confusion or talk that the Creators hadn't made an effort to make it clear what was going on in your and Shardins' posts (they maybe didn't take suggestions exactly as they were given to them, but they did something infinitely more simple that served the same purpose).

And as far as I can tell, everyone actually picked up on this being the first private video right from the start (no one had to post that this was the case). There were just two mild cases of uncertainty and one case of actual confusion regarding who it was by and for (but still recognition of what it was meant to be).

Anyway, this seems like it would have been a good opportunity to trigger Daniel if he, indeed, has a trigger (maybe he drove the other vehicle back to base?).

TommyIsCancer · Post by **TommyIsCancer** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:04 pm

I think it's garbage that people are saying, "Daniel was clearly abducted." There was nothing clear about it. Yeah, it was clear that Jonas and Bree were caught but that's it. Daniel may have been caught. Daniel may have been triggered and was doing the capturing of them himself. Heck, that might have been him who drove off in the end. But no, nothing is clear about if Daniel was caught or not.

I personally tend to hate the idea of Daniel being able to be triggered but it does make sense so I won't rule it out.

giddeanx · Post by **giddeanx** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:07 pm

longlostposter wrote:
janesalteredstates wrote:This is driving me insane. I have not heard anyone say anyone's name yet and I've watched the video like 10 times
Bree definitely says Jonas before each capture.

I don't here "Jonas" either but I do here some sort of distorted bird call before each hit, and earlier on in the video.

janesalteredstates · Post by **janesalteredstates** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:08 pm

longlostposter wrote:I want to say here, it would make perfect sense for DB to be triggered and help out an Orderite here. I've been saying he was brain-washed since the "Miss Me" vid. There is no way in hell that spin-art was recreational activity while being held by OpAphid.

In fact, I've been anxiously waiting to see when he would be triggered.

OTH, if I'm wrong, please pretend you never read this post.

lol

Hear hear! (including the part where if I'm wrong, ignore all I have said.)

Shaneener · Post by **Shaneener** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:09 pm

I just don't want to believe it's Daniel.

I can't hear "Jonas..." at all! I've watched it like, four times!

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:10 pm

I'm going to go watch the vid again. Be back.

Misty · Post by **Misty** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:10 pm

TommyIsCancer wrote:I think it's garbage that people are saying, "Daniel was clearly abducted." There was nothing clear about it. Yeah, it was clear that Jonas and Bree were caught but that's it. Daniel may have been caught. Daniel may have been triggered and was doing the capturing of them himself. Heck, that might have been him who drove off in the end. But no, nothing is clear about if Daniel was caught or not.

I personally tend to hate the idea of Daniel being able to be triggered but it does make sense so I won't rule it out.

the first time i watched the Video i thought Daniel was Captured, but then I watched it several more times carefully examining the scene I thought was Daniel's abduction, and it was clear that when the moan/scream happened, daniel was standing near the SUV and looked like he could be doing something. That's why I think He was abducting Jonas.

giddeanx · Post by **giddeanx** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:15 pm

Daniel's loud grunt dosen't sound to me like someone slipping into a hypnotic state. When the grunt happens it looks like he is near a metal wall that might be used to hide a dumpster. Not near the car.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:17 pm

Shaneener wrote:I just don't want to believe it's Daniel.

I can't hear "Jonas..." at all! I've watched it like, four times!

I hear it at 1:01, 1:07, and 1:14 - just before each capture.

heyiknowsyou · Post by **heyiknowsyou** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:18 pm

Order members do some pretty fancy shmancy editing for private transmissions among each other, don't you think? They must all have a penchant for the dramatics.

anyway, i really liked this. i think its pretty close to what we needed to happen.

Although, what now? Our threesom can't respond if they're being held captive. I mean, they can take footage all they want, but i doubt the order would let them upload it. So what now? Will we finally get to hear from Bro or Tachy? Maybe Gemma will show up (if she's not dead), a traitor to the order and ready to help Bree fo reals. (ps, i'm just speculating. i'm not all that much of a fan of gemma's.)

...one of them needs to escape.