0096 "Tough Cookie" [12/12/06]

Way2Curious · Post by **Way2Curious** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:19 pm

If I was really going to try and hurt someone, I don't think I would use nice padded boxing gloves.....

So I'm thinking that the missing boxing gloves don't mean that he did something to Bree.

aprilawz · Post by **aprilawz** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:19 pm

omegawoman wrote:Double post- but I just realized that this video is shot from a different angle, like are we supposed to notice something?

What is that grey fuzzy thing on the shelf with the two trophies?

nobackspacebutton wrote:I'm not sure..I've been looking at the backgrounds....all i notice is that there are a lot of round objects...snowglobes...there are some vases...books...but I can't make out the books. There are two pictures that you can barely make out, but again, I'm not sure of the importance or relevance of the background yet.

I think it's relevent simply because he didn't edit it out...other than that, I have no idea what we are being shown...

wstabeo · Post by **wstabeo** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:20 pm

Okay, am I the only one to call bullshit on Jonas' story? Bree's been eating and drinking...but hasn't left her room for three days? Not even to use the restroom? (okay, i suppose it's possible there's a bathroom attached....but still)

And why wouldn't he have taken the camera to the door showing him trying to knock, or at least capture her voice on the video?

It's because she isn't there, people. Jonas has shown no proof whatsoever that Bree is actually with him or even safe. The only thing we have is that he had a copy of the video Bree/Daniel shot in parking garage. That's it.

I simply don't believe Jonas one whit.

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:21 pm

kageyuki wrote:
Kasdeja wrote:This was requested so that all those who don't wish to delve into the game don't have to see it here. It's all in the OpAphid area, should someone want to hash out all that. The creators said that we didn't have to watch the ARG vids in order to enjoy the LG15 saga. For the respect of all it was requested to keep them separated for the most part.
I understand all that and will try to keep to the writers' wishes, but these are the forums. and probably 80-90% of us are involved in some way in the ARG...

From time to time, subjects pertaining the ARG will come up.

If we're supposed to keep the main storyline and the ARG so separate, why do we keep all the the discussions regarding videos of Bree, Daniel, Gemma, Jonas, Op Aphid and Tachyon all in the same section?

It's like trying separate air. Some of it's always going come around the sides of what you're trying to use to hold it back.

I'm not the one who requested it or makes the rules! I'm just directing you to where the info is. Why would we hash it out in TWO SEPARATE areas? When something is needed for THIS plot, we share it...but there's no need to delve into Tachy and OpAphid indepth for that...as requested. Thank you. Good day.

parakeet100 · Post by **parakeet100** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:23 pm

I like the theories about the hobo and the baker. There's definitely more to it than what's been said in the videos...

Talezine · Post by **Talezine** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:23 pm

wstabeo wrote:Okay, am I the only one to call bullshit on Jonas' story? Bree's been eating and drinking...but hasn't left her room for three days? Not even to use the restroom? (okay, i suppose it's possible there's a bathroom attached....but still)

And why wouldn't he have taken the camera to the door showing him trying to knock, or at least capture her voice on the video?

It's because she isn't there, people. Jonas has shown no proof whatsoever that Bree is actually with him or even safe. The only thing we have is that he had a copy of the video Bree/Daniel shot in parking garage. That's it.

I simply don't believe Jonas one whit.

Interesting...how about this.

Gemma returns to the US upon discovering that Bree is truly thinking about going to Jonas' house. She arrives, and finds that indeed Daniel and Bree split, leaving Bree with Jona. She seeks out Lucy, asking if Bree is Ok...and where they are keeping her. Lucy, politely (trying to act as if everything is ok) agrees to take Gema to see where Bree is.

I know, long shot...but....

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:23 pm

Luv2Skydive wrote: You can see them in the last second.

You're right. Took a few tries..but I got the screen cap of it. Really quick.

mousegirl · Post by **mousegirl** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:25 pm

wow!
That was a surprised.
I mean I thought about Gemma being part of the order, how can you not? With this, you have to think everyone is part of the order ^^;
So many twist and turns crazy

imogene2004 · Post by **imogene2004** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:26 pm

nobackspacebutton wrote:I love reading the comments on the main page....anyone realise this?

jessica629 Says:
December 12th, 2006 at 9:57 am
Yeah, the terminator thing is creepy. In T2, Linda Hamilton is locked up in a mental institution because noone believes her story about the Terminator.
Locked up.
Then she gets ripped and escapes. It’s badass.

Jaxon Says:
December 12th, 2006 at 10:54 am
Not really sure about this. Just an idea that has begun percolating in the back of my mind and I have to get it down on paper, so to speak before it becomes too convoluted. Anyways, we got bakery owner + Advertising executive in one person and hobo + mortgage banker in another person. These people are living dual lives. Has anyone seen the itscassie video “nightmare”. Maybe, just maybe, that is a dual personality of Bree and the feet were of Jonas walking to the door. Perhaps Bree has taken on a second personality that is a little bit more distant from the danger and can try to help her figure out what to do. Also, that could go along with the T2 mention in regards to going a little nuts or at least being perceived that way even though what you are worried about is all too real.

Maybe Daniel had Bree committed and Jonas is a mental patient, too. Just a thought, you never know.........

erolyn · Post by **erolyn** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:31 pm

Luv2Skydive wrote:Something probably totally random but caught my ear was his conversation with the store owner.....big city exec had to get away....reminded me of Daniel's train ride with the Walter who hops trains 2 months out of the year.

I noticed that too...lots of people making "life changes" on these videos, huh? I wonder what that means.

I'm now 95% sure that Bree is locked up in Jonas' basement, however. He and Gemma are totally working together. And I bet Bree's parents are in the basement, too. Now all Jonas has to do is lure Daniel in, and then he and Gemma can "eradicate" the "problem" altogether! As one big happy family! Isn't that cute?

wstabeo · Post by **wstabeo** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:32 pm

I'm leaning toward the idea that Gemma and Jonas were working together. Bree isn't at Jonas' house, and the "Your Decision" video was just really weird. It showed a fight, but not much else. It's hastily edited, and the shot of Jonas in the alley didn't seem to fit with the rest of it. I just don't buy any of it.

I'm guessing Daniel took off (as we know), and someone took Bree. We haven't seen Bree since, and we have absolutely no reason to trust Jonas. He's not shown us a reason to trust him, or even prove that Bree is even there or okay.

He's a fatty McLiar.

LONGTIMELURKER · Post by **LONGTIMELURKER** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:32 pm

Plus Gemma is not who she says she is... another dual pesonality! and forgive my asking,but was that Lucy she was with ??

DUN DUN DUNNNN !!!!!!!

Way2Curious · Post by **Way2Curious** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:35 pm

erolyn wrote:
Luv2Skydive wrote:Something probably totally random but caught my ear was his conversation with the store owner.....big city exec had to get away....reminded me of Daniel's train ride with the Walter who hops trains 2 months out of the year.
I noticed that too...lots of people making "life changes" on these videos, huh? I wonder what that means.

I was kind of thinking...that maybe those references had something to do with who is writing, perhaps they translated a little bit about their own life into the story? Using metaphors, perhaps?

parakeet100 · Post by **parakeet100** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:36 pm

Bree has to be okay. She's the main character. I think Gemma's being depicted as the bad guy and either A) she's not bad at all, or B) she's way worse than people thought. Jonas appears to be a good guy, almost like he's representing all the regular people on here that are at home and trying to help or something. I think we'll see less of the girls and more of Daniel and Jonas for a while.

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:37 pm

wstabeo wrote:I'm leaning toward the idea that Gemma and Jonas were working together. Bree isn't at Jonas' house, and the "Your Decision" video was just really weird. It showed a fight, but not much else. It's hastily edited, and the shot of Jonas in the alley didn't seem to fit with the rest of it. I just don't buy any of it.

I'm guessing Daniel took off (as we know), and someone took Bree. We haven't seen Bree since, and we have absolutely no reason to trust Jonas. He's not shown us a reason to trust him, or even prove that Bree is even there or okay.

He's a fatty McLiar.

hmmm...I don't think they work together...if so, Gemma wouldn't have told them to stay away from him and go home.