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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:30 am
by robtomorrow
senoritablanca wrote:
robtomorrow wrote:
Steph1636 wrote:
Well in the message from Bree's dad he said that she would meet him in a week. And from the info, people have been thinking that it that day would be on the 30th

Well excuse for thinking that it would be hard to drive. I, having little driving experience, could never just go out and drive on the roads safely. I would crash into everything!
The reasoning about the date as I understand it is that Bree's Dad's message said they would meet one week from when he got a message from Bree that she got his message. People are thinking the CUSOON message was that message. The Movie Mystery video was posted Saturday 23, so one week from that is Saturday the 30th.
the new theory is that the message was actually meant for daniel/jonas to recieve when they looked back on her messages after she disappeared. remember, her father does not know about her youtube.
Yes I saw that theory mentioned in the thread, it is interresting, and possible.

But in the video she did a long prologue about how she couldn't figure out her Dad's code. so it seems more in context that she was reponding to her Dad.

As for who can see what when, it has become very confusing, curisousGeorge had a thread in Plot Discussion about that question, it went on for 10 pages or so until he finally gave up trying to figure out any logical stucture.

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:34 am
by senoritablanca
robtomorrow wrote:
senoritablanca wrote:
robtomorrow wrote:
Steph1636 wrote:
Well in the message from Bree's dad he said that she would meet him in a week. And from the info, people have been thinking that it that day would be on the 30th

Well excuse for thinking that it would be hard to drive. I, having little driving experience, could never just go out and drive on the roads safely. I would crash into everything!
The reasoning about the date as I understand it is that Bree's Dad's message said they would meet one week from when he got a message from Bree that she got his message. People are thinking the CUSOON message was that message. The Movie Mystery video was posted Saturday 23, so one week from that is Saturday the 30th.
the new theory is that the message was actually meant for daniel/jonas to recieve when they looked back on her messages after she disappeared. remember, her father does not know about her youtube.
Yes I saw that theory mentioned in the thread, it is interresting, and possible.

But in the video she did a long prologue about how she couldn't figure out her Dad's code. so it seems more in context that she was reponding to her Dad.

As for who can see what when, it has become very confusing, curisousGeorge had a thread in Plot Discussion about that question, it went on for 10 pages or so until he finally gave up trying to figure out any logical stucture.
it is my personal belief that her extended rant was her way of leading the Order astray. How successful this was, i'm not sure, but i suppose we'll find out soon enough

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:39 am
by lonelyelendi
I agree with Blanca, she is very intelligent!

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:42 am
by robtomorrow
lonelyelendi wrote:I agree with Blanca, she is very intelligent!
:shock: :cry:

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:43 am
by senoritablanca
lonelyelendi wrote:I agree with Blanca, she is very intelligent!
well, you know.. i try 8)

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:44 am
by lonelyelendi
hahahahahah....well I made her feel good!

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:55 am
by solrac_krad
Bree went to meet her parent
The CU SOON Message is for Jonas and Daniel, it gets obvious when Daniel says he´s gonna check some videos form bree.
The Loveline thing, didnt it appeared on some opaphid or tachyon puzzles? (I dont catch on alot of tachyon and opaphid things)

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:10 am
by joygasm
solrac_krad wrote:Bree went to meet her parent
The CU SOON Message is for Jonas and Daniel, it gets obvious when Daniel says he´s gonna check some videos form bree.
The Loveline thing, didnt it appeared on some opaphid or tachyon puzzles? (I dont catch on alot of tachyon and opaphid things)
Tachyon I believe

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:19 am
by annie
Wow! I get involved with the fam for Christmas and come back here and it's like Christmas all over again, with these videos. Thank you Creators!! :D

I agree the people who think the Order may have gotten Bree. I hope not, but it just seems to be too much of a stretch for her to take Jonas' credit card ~ I can see her taking his car, but something like a credit card?? And leaving abruptly after Daniel had arrived? Wierd...

She was really depressed, so maybe she did act "out of character", and took off... but Jonas' "pity party" seems like a way to divert our attention. And Daniel does seem pretty calm ~ he's usually mellow, but it seems like he would be more concerned than he seems right now.

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:25 am
by joygasm
annie wrote:She was really depressed, so maybe she did act "out of character", and took off... but Jonas' "pity party" seems like a way to divert our attention. And Daniel does seem pretty calm ~ he's usually mellow, but it seems like he would be more concerned than he seems right now.
He also just woke up, and I know you can't get much of a reaction out of me when I wake up.

Jonas' motives

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:26 am
by Jeninlb
[quote="Languorous Lass"][quote="Ganesha"]Jonas' "passing out" was a ruse. Once Bree and Daniel crashed, Jonas kidnapped, or otherwise handed Bree off to the Order, via the car. Jonas had to wait until Daniel was there, because Daniel is to be the patsy for this.[/quote]

I think this is an excellent theory. It's consistent with Bree's disappearing without any sign of breaking and entering or other violence.

Even if she's only gone to meet her dad, though, I don't expect her to show up at Jonas's again. Either she's already been taken, or she'll be taken when she's at the rendezvous point.

I agree with arammat that the "Learning to Drive" vid laid the groundwork for her being able to borrow Jonas's car to meet her dad. We know for sure that Bree has at least had some driving lessons, whereas if we hadn't had that vid, we would undoubtedly have been speculating: "She's been so sheltered and homeschooled, she couldn't possibly know how to drive Jonas's car!" Etc.

I disagree with arammat, though, about the significance of the two different stories about missing money/credit cards. Given how much we study each video, the creators must be trying to make some kind of point here. What seems to make the most sense is that Jonas is trying to concoct a plausible story that will make Bree seem like the bad guy, and will prevent Daniel from being able to go to the cops -- which we know he's wanted to do, and what he probably would have done long ago if Bree hadn't been around to dissuade him.

Argh. This situation really could go either way.[/quote]

If, in fact, Jonas is siding with the Order, it could be forced. Perhaps he is being blackmailed? Something along the lines of "Deliver us the girl and you might see your own parents alive again" wouldn't be entirely unreasonable.

Re: Jonas' motives

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:27 am
by joygasm
Jeninlb wrote:
If, in fact, Jonas is siding with the Order, it could be forced. Perhaps he is being blackmailed? Something along the lines of "Deliver us the girl and you might see your own parents alive again" wouldn't be entirely unreasonable.
That would be an INSANE twist!

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:28 am
by anngry
after watching that last video, my strongest feeling is DANG daniel is lookin fine.

also, she has to be with her dad. where else would she be?

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:33 am
by solrac_krad
anngry wrote:after watching that last video, my strongest feeling is DANG daniel is lookin fine.
I saw that too :p

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:36 am
by robtomorrow
annie wrote:She was really depressed, so maybe she did act "out of character", and took off... but Jonas' "pity party" seems like a way to divert our attention. And Daniel does seem pretty calm ~ he's usually mellow, but it seems like he would be more concerned than he seems right now.

It maybe that they already went through the freaking out phase, a couple of hours before they made the video, they are in the resigned and what now phase.