0096 "Tough Cookie" [12/12/06]

parakeet100 · Post by **parakeet100** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:37 pm

Kasdeja wrote:
wstabeo wrote:I'm leaning toward the idea that Gemma and Jonas were working together. Bree isn't at Jonas' house, and the "Your Decision" video was just really weird. It showed a fight, but not much else. It's hastily edited, and the shot of Jonas in the alley didn't seem to fit with the rest of it. I just don't buy any of it.

I'm guessing Daniel took off (as we know), and someone took Bree. We haven't seen Bree since, and we have absolutely no reason to trust Jonas. He's not shown us a reason to trust him, or even prove that Bree is even there or okay.

He's a fatty McLiar.
hmmm...I don't think they work together...if so, Gemma wouldn't have told them to stay away from him and go home.

True dat.

breewithcrackers · Post by **breewithcrackers** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:38 pm

aprilawz wrote:
AGuyNamedJoe wrote:
breewithcrackers wrote:i don't think he'd be encouraging Daniel to come if that's how he really felt...
He knows Daniel is the lesser man. It will make his conquest of Bree all the sweeter to have him there. It's a guy thing, you would'nt understand.
He's right, Bw/C, you and everyone else would have to shave off several IQ points before you could get your thinking down to a level where this would make sense....

right right--too bad I don't have the requisite testosterone to "get it"

Way2Curious · Post by **Way2Curious** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:39 pm

Could it be possible that Gemma was captured by the order, and thats why she's in the US?
Though I'm kind of hoping that Gemma actually is evil.....

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:41 pm

Way2Curious wrote:Could it be possible that Gemma was captured by the order, and thats why she's in the US?
Though I'm kind of hoping that Gemma actually is evil.....

she couldn't have been captured...she went into the building in the first tach video..and in the second video, she came out with Lucy.

erolyn · Post by **erolyn** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:42 pm

Way2Curious wrote:
erolyn wrote:
Luv2Skydive wrote:Something probably totally random but caught my ear was his conversation with the store owner.....big city exec had to get away....reminded me of Daniel's train ride with the Walter who hops trains 2 months out of the year.
I noticed that too...lots of people making "life changes" on these videos, huh? I wonder what that means.
I was kind of thinking...that maybe those references had something to do with who is writing, perhaps they translated a little bit about their own life into the story? Using metaphors, perhaps?

Perhaps. I was kind of hoping for something more sinister, tho

Way2Curious · Post by **Way2Curious** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:43 pm

nobackspacebutton wrote:
Way2Curious wrote:Could it be possible that Gemma was captured by the order, and thats why she's in the US?
Though I'm kind of hoping that Gemma actually is evil.....
she couldn't have been captured...she went into the building in the first tach video..and in the second video, she came out with Lucy.

Good point.

Way2Curious · Post by **Way2Curious** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:44 pm

erolyn wrote:
Way2Curious wrote:
erolyn wrote:
Luv2Skydive wrote:Something probably totally random but caught my ear was his conversation with the store owner.....big city exec had to get away....reminded me of Daniel's train ride with the Walter who hops trains 2 months out of the year.
I noticed that too...lots of people making "life changes" on these videos, huh? I wonder what that means.
I was kind of thinking...that maybe those references had something to do with who is writing, perhaps they translated a little bit about their own life into the story? Using metaphors, perhaps?
Perhaps. I was kind of hoping for something more sinister, tho

Something more sinister would be more fun....

I just can't think of anything sinister that it could mean right now.....

Post by **Broken Kid** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:47 pm

nobackspacebutton wrote:
Way2Curious wrote:Could it be possible that Gemma was captured by the order, and thats why she's in the US?
Though I'm kind of hoping that Gemma actually is evil.....
she couldn't have been captured...she went into the building in the first tach video..and in the second video, she came out with Lucy.

What if she was lured to the US to see someone, and Lucy ended up being there...... Maybe we're supposed to think she's evil!

ForeverMourn · Post by **ForeverMourn** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:50 pm

I TOOK A SHOWER AND WHAM tada. Movie. ^_^

Someone mentioned Bree Hiding/Decoy... I like that idea.

Luv2Skydive · Post by **Luv2Skydive** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:50 pm

erolyn wrote:
Luv2Skydive wrote:Something probably totally random but caught my ear was his conversation with the store owner.....big city exec had to get away....reminded me of Daniel's train ride with the Walter who hops trains 2 months out of the year.
I noticed that too...lots of people making "life changes" on these videos, huh? I wonder what that means.

I'm now 95% sure that Bree is locked up in Jonas' basement, however. He and Gemma are totally working together. And I bet Bree's parents are in the basement, too. Now all Jonas has to do is lure Daniel in, and then he and Gemma can "eradicate" the "problem" altogether! As one big happy family! Isn't that cute?

I hope the stories are code because they are really off the wall things to be bringing up.....

Way2Curious · Post by **Way2Curious** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:53 pm

Broken Kid wrote:
nobackspacebutton wrote:
Way2Curious wrote:Could it be possible that Gemma was captured by the order, and thats why she's in the US?
Though I'm kind of hoping that Gemma actually is evil.....
she couldn't have been captured...she went into the building in the first tach video..and in the second video, she came out with Lucy.
What if she was lured to the US to see someone, and Lucy ended up being there...... Maybe we're supposed to think she's evil!

Or maybe she was threatened?

Talezine · Post by **Talezine** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:01 pm

Way2Curious wrote:
Broken Kid wrote:
nobackspacebutton wrote:
Way2Curious wrote:Could it be possible that Gemma was captured by the order, and thats why she's in the US?
Though I'm kind of hoping that Gemma actually is evil.....
she couldn't have been captured...she went into the building in the first tach video..and in the second video, she came out with Lucy.
What if she was lured to the US to see someone, and Lucy ended up being there...... Maybe we're supposed to think she's evil!
Or maybe she was threatened?

This is my thought. Refering to what I posted earlier:

Interesting...how about this.

Gemma returns to the US upon discovering that Bree is truly thinking about going to Jonas' house. She arrives, and finds that indeed Daniel and Bree split, leaving Bree with Jona. She seeks out Lucy, asking if Bree is Ok...and where they are keeping her. Lucy, politely (trying to act as if everything is ok) agrees to take Gema to see where Bree is.

I know, long shot...but

To me, Gemma is trying to find Bree...and KNOWS that Jonas is most likely part of the order. So, she is using her contacts to ensure she is safe.

Paul Monkuppet · Post by **Paul Monkuppet** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:12 pm

Ok now I thought Gemma was the one to trust but of course I and I'm sure many others were wrong.

Now with this video for the most part I thought Jonas was full of s***. But there were afew things he said and the way he said them that made me think he is telling the truth and Bree really is just sitting in he room all sad and depresed. I am still somewhat unsure since we have not seen her at all. So I hope she comes out of her room to tell us shes ok if that is hopefully the case. And I hope Daniel will smarten up and go back to Bree if he really cares for her.

kneeleigh · Post by **kneeleigh** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:12 pm

Smelltheflowers wrote:"It's like she's put herself in some self imposed solitary confinement, like prison style" *Strange Giggle*

Okay, I found that part more than a little strange...Prison style, eh Jonas? I think the laughter after he said that was particularly telling. Who would find her anguish funny?

EXACTLY what I noticed.
I was like, "How is that funny? It's not..."

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:14 pm

kneeleigh wrote:
Smelltheflowers wrote:"It's like she's put herself in some self imposed solitary confinement, like prison style" *Strange Giggle*

Okay, I found that part more than a little strange...Prison style, eh Jonas? I think the laughter after he said that was particularly telling. Who would find her anguish funny?
EXACTLY what I noticed.
I was like, "How is that funny? It's not..."

I think he's laughing because he thinks its cute. But still..how can she be confined? He could go open the door and say 'look dude, its my house, you can't piss in there, ok? now come out!'