0052 Following the helper [10/15/06]

[Hannahbee]

I posted this under List of Strange Tags, and now realize that I probably posted in the wrong place. If a mod wants to delete the posts, I would appreciate it. Thanks.

I understand the link of chartreuse to absinthe, especially with the poster, but chartreuse is an alcohol separate from absinthe.

http://www.nycgoth.com/more/chartreuse/

Not sure if this will be any help, but the article says, "Though the precise herbs in chartreuse are not publically known, there is a small quantity of thujone, the active chemical in wormwood (and consequently, absinthe.)"

(After further research)

Thujone has been injected into mice, so I see no reason why it couldn't be what has been injected into Bree.

http://www.ncl.ac.uk/medplant/about_mpr ... xicity.htm

any idea what it did to the mice exactly? cuz i'm not reading all that stuff- i'm waay too tired.

[nakita]

Too bad La Crete is 11.5 hours away from me....I'd be too chickenshit to go up there and anyone I know would laugh their asses off at me if I requested one of them to come with me for the hell of it. Someone else in Alberta can go look lol. I don't understand why Alberta. Pffff us Canadians aren't that exciting.

I'm in central Alberta, but darned if I'm gonna go. lol, I can just picture it now. "Hey Mom, can I borrow the car?" ... "Why?" ... "To go to a Mennonite community to find a fictional girl who has been kidnapped by her fictional religion." ... "No." ... "But thousands of non-Albertans are counting on me!" ... "It's a school night!"


And ya, I can't get anyone to go with me, I'm trying to hide my nerdiness

[asenath]

Just think its worth mentioning that people seem to be overrating the effects of absinthe. I've seen many people drink it, although I haven't myself, and none of them talked of any hallucinations. This is over several different types also, although none of them were 16 year old non drinkers either.

It also depends on how you prepare it. If you just drink it straight, which a lot of people who don't know what they're doing tend to do, then yeah, it's going to really suck for you. However, if you prepare it correctly, then it'll be just fine to consume, as long as you don't consume way too much.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absinthe#Preparation

[spaciegirlreturn]

Just think its worth mentioning that people seem to be overrating the effects of absinthe. I've seen many people drink it, although I haven't myself, and none of them talked of any hallucinations. This is over several different types also, although none of them were 16 year old non drinkers either.

Where do you live though? A while ago I was researching absinthe and I was under a misconception that you could still get it in most of Europe..but I remember finding out otherwise (I may be wrong..but I think I remember that). I know that something called "absinthe" is sold in many places, but that it's not really the same stuff as the real, original absinthe. I'm too lazy to look all that crap up again.

[Mirage]

Too bad La Crete is 11.5 hours away from me....I'd be too chickenshit to go up there and anyone I know would laugh their asses off at me if I requested one of them to come with me for the hell of it. Someone else in Alberta can go look lol. I don't understand why Alberta. Pffff us Canadians aren't that exciting.

I'm in central Alberta, but darned if I'm gonna go. lol, I can just picture it now. "Hey Mom, can I borrow the car?" ... "Why?" ... "To go to a Mennonite community to find a fictional girl who has been kidnapped by her fictional religion." ... "No." ... "But thousands of non-Albertans are counting on me!" ... "It's a school night!"


And ya, I can't get anyone to go with me, I'm trying to hide my nerdiness

LMAO!! And then trying to explain to the Mennonites why you're there.

Besides, we haven't seen any details about where something would be dropped. We wouldn't want people just wandering around a town looking for something LG15 related!

I'm just stumped as to what we're supposed to be doing now that we know were these places are. They're obviously real, websites connected to them are real...is this just another clue to be talked about until the next video?

[saralynn]

I don't think the actual poster is significant at all. It's just a common copy of a lithograph that was an advertisement for a brand (Robette, I assume) of absinthe. I doubt that the artist is well known or significant and this type of thing isn't neccessarily even thought to be fine art (especially not at the time it was made) by many people. I think that absinthe is the clue. Maybe it is the reason why Bree seemed a little dopey in the last video..

I'm an art history major so I just have to correct you out of habit, lol! The artist is Alphonse Mucha, and he's very famous. Maybe what he did wasn't 'fine art' but it was revolutionary graphic art.

Other than that, I don't think there's any significance to Mucha. I think they just wanted something that said Absinthe on it, and they found that advertisement and used it. I have about 5 of his posters, they aren't hard to get.

Carry on!

[Kimmi-Chan]

I don't think the actual poster is significant at all. It's just a common copy of a lithograph that was an advertisement for a brand (Robette, I assume) of absinthe. I doubt that the artist is well known or significant and this type of thing isn't neccessarily even thought to be fine art (especially not at the time it was made) by many people. I think that absinthe is the clue. Maybe it is the reason why Bree seemed a little dopey in the last video..

I'm an art history major so I just have to correct you out of habit, lol! The artist is Alphonse Mucha, and he's very famous. Maybe what he did wasn't 'fine art' but it was revolutionary graphic art.

Other than that, I don't think there's any significance to Mucha. I think they just wanted something that said Absinthe on it, and they found that advertisement and used it. I have about 5 of his posters, they aren't hard to get.

Carry on!

great catch, I thought the poster looked familiar, I wouldn't have known the artists name though. Alphonse Mucha. Got it.

[nakita]

Lots of new people popping up here... *looks around suspiciously*

[amiers]

did anyone figure out if the names are anagrams? i suck at doing those

[lordgreystoke422]

From reading up on Absinthe, it seems that Allister Crowley was quite into that specific drink. Since the Absinthe poster is hanging on that wall, I could easily imagine it being a part of their 'sacred ceremonies'. In the early part of the 20th century, Absinthe was thought to be a hallucinogenic drug. It wasn't really(?) but it was about 75% alcohol, and gave people a heightened sense of alertness and whatnot. It also caused epileptic convulsions in lab rats

Definitely sounds like the stuff for secret ceremonies...

Just throwing a little "note" out there for people... Epilepsy and psychic abilities..someone wanna google that before I catch up...

OH..on a unrelated related note...has anyone every used DOGPILE for websearching? Check it out.. www.Dogpile.com.. I combines google...jeeves..MSN and something else..

[spaciegirlreturn]

I don't think the actual poster is significant at all. It's just a common copy of a lithograph that was an advertisement for a brand (Robette, I assume) of absinthe. I doubt that the artist is well known or significant and this type of thing isn't neccessarily even thought to be fine art (especially not at the time it was made) by many people. I think that absinthe is the clue. Maybe it is the reason why Bree seemed a little dopey in the last video..

I'm an art history major so I just have to correct you out of habit, lol! The artist is Alphonse Mucha, and he's very famous. Maybe what he did wasn't 'fine art' but it was revolutionary graphic art.

Other than that, I don't think there's any significance to Mucha. I think they just wanted something that said Absinthe on it, and they found that advertisement and used it. I have about 5 of his posters, they aren't hard to get.

Carry on!

Girl (or Dude..I don't know), I have freakin' BFA in printmaking!!...we're talking 5 semesters of tortuous lithography. lol I said "many people" would probably not consider it to be fine art...I didn't say me. And compared to such artists as Dali and Monet that are crammed in the general public's faces, Mucha is not so "famous".

[saralynn]

Also, I know you guys love all the LITTLE TINY DETAILS.. so I looked in my giant Alphonse Mucha book (I could kill someone with it, truly), and there's this exerpt. It honestly doesn't jump out at me, but it does mention the occult so there you go.

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When Mucha moved to his apartment with studio in the rue du Val de Grace, he found that many of his neighbors were involved in the occult. He wrote with great enthusiasm:

"Science knows no limits. Today, there is no science to which this dictum would apply more aplty than occult science which actually is not occult at all, since it is being brought into the austere light of rational study by the most competant minds. Man in his curiousity is lifting the edge of the veil and can only marvel!"

(seperate section)

...Mucha attended many seances in the home of Sarah Bernhardt and at his own apartment and those of several of his new friends and neighbors. Flammarion taught him spirit writing, that is writing dictated by the dead. This appealed enormously to Mucha, who carried on complex and involved correspondance from various deceased family members and friends.


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So there. Take what you will. (and I am a girl, I don't know many guys named Sara Lynn. Don't be so fiesty, above poster! I like to think Mucha is equally famous as some artists, it really depends on what your opinion is. He's very widely reproduced.)

[Legna]

My bf had to go to La Crete once for business and he said that they were prewarned beforehand absolutely no alcohol was permitted in the community. He says it is a VERY Mennonite town and also said he'd never go back lol so he's outta the question. I don't think work would be too impressed...um I need to book some time off to go chase down a clue but don't worry I'll be back eventually. *takes some timmies on the road with her*

[LikkleSister]

Two things....

1. - Anyone seen the Wickerman? (Old school here, no Nick Cage pansypants ) What if Daniel has been roped in all along? *nods sagely* I think he's about to be roasted in a giant wicker stick-man.

2. Chartreuse described as an "Elixir of Life", eh? Mwahahahaaa. Google Elixir of Life and Aleister Crowley. Enjoy.

[planetquest]

In case anyone wants to buy a poster. I was wondering if it was important or if he was just looking at it, but doesn't seem to be anything unique:
http://www.popartuk.com/art/privat-live ... poster.asp

You guys may have already covered this, but the above link had the following info on the picture.

Vintage Art Nouveau advertising print depicting a young woman holding aloft a cup of Absinthe Robette; a drink due to its wormwood ingredient, produced hallucinogenic side effects and was soon forced off the market by the French government; much to the chagrin of the art and literature scene.

This could be some foreshadowing indicating the Bree is being drugged, maybe explaining the shot in the arm.