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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:12 pm
by Wisi Girl
I didn't think it was Thelema. I am with those who believe that the creators are smart enough not to franchise an existing religion/society because it could possibly mean trouble for them! I am leaning towards the idea that even they are not sure what is going on. I want to give them more credit than that. No, I haven't seriously considered any of the previous theories to the the extent most everyone else has. Especially with Thelema. I knew it wasn't that. Well then, if you have all the answers trainer101, I have a few more things to ask you! He he! How long do you think LG15 will last? Do you believe we will all get our answers before it's finally over?

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:13 pm
by Kasdeja
thinkitthrough wrote:I think trainer 101 is the only person who has found any real evidence as to who or what The Order is. I just think he makes some valid points and has linked a lot of this with one thing in common. The Illuminati. Bree read about George Washington recently and responded to Trainer 101 about it. Coincidence?! I think not!
Please read my post from a few moments ago...and maybe backtrack about a month. :wink: Not saying he's wrong...but this mirrors what happened when we were all positive it was Thelema, before the backtracking by the creatatrons.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:15 pm
by Kasdeja
Wisi Girl wrote:I didn't think it was Thelema. I am with those who believe that the creators are smart enough not to franchise an existing religion/society because it could possibly mean trouble for them! I am leaning towards the idea that even they are not sure what is going on. I want to give them more credit than that. No, I haven't seriously considered any of the previous theories to the the extent most everyone else has. Especially with Thelema. I knew it wasn't that. Well then, if you have all the answers trainer101, I have a few more things to ask you! He he! How long do you think LG15 will last? Do you believe we will all get our answers before it's finally over?
I guess I'm considered smart since I didn't say I was stupid and thought it was Thelema. REading...comprehension...less...insulting. I've posted extensively against it being Thelema...as recently as last Friday. :roll:

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:15 pm
by twjaniak
Wisi Girl wrote:trainer101: First of all, I didn't know that they would actually respond to us! That is really neat! I wonder how that fits in to this whole mess, though. It's fake but we must pretend that it's real because they, as the characters, continue to do so in the blogs. But then they read these forums? Do they, the characters, see how we know they're faking it? I'm confused. This is a fine line between fan and actor with this new form of entertainment, eh? Rather surreal in my opinion.
When I first created the in-character forums, I was told that those were the only forums that Bree, Daniel, etc. could see, as if the rest of the board didn't exist. Now we know that Daniel has read and commented on the rest of the forums in his videos, but that was before the in-character section went up, who knows how things will play out now.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:15 pm
by trainer101
omegawoman wrote:
trainer101 wrote:
omegawoman wrote:
trainer101 wrote:Bree responds to my letter! :oops:
http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewt ... 8552#68552

Seems we are on the right track!
Trainer,

I am confused. How are we on the right track? Bree suggested you gave her some good advice, and said she read a book about George Washington.

Have I missed something on the forums, I thought I read through them all?


I believe we are looking for a secret society that includes elements of or references to:
Crowley
Thelema
1904
1998
Olympics
Water (though I think this may be a P.Monkey clue)
Infiltration of the authorities
"my little eye"
Ancient Egypt
John Harrison's chronometer (or, I believe, the era it was invented)

In the end, there will be a single thread that ties all of this together. I believe the thread is the Illuminati (also convenient because in it's current incarnation the Illuminati is fictional)

The reference to George Washington is important because there were allegations that he too was a member of the Illuminati. History has established that while the U.S. was at war with Britain, GW was allowed to enter a British camp to be sworn in as a Freemason even though he was the General of the enemy army. In fiction, the Freemason's are portrayed as a faction of the Illuminati.

whew! Hope I made sense... :?
This being said, I think Gemma fits more into the "George Washington" area. She is allowed into "enemy camp" to gather info, or mabe further her ranking. Just a thought.
Oooo... That's a GOOD one! I like it! Gemma's on both sides of the fence.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:16 pm
by Kasdeja
giggles at trainer

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:20 pm
by trainer101
Wisi Girl wrote:I didn't think it was Thelema. I am with those who believe that the creators are smart enough not to franchise an existing religion/society because it could possibly mean trouble for them! I am leaning towards the idea that even they are not sure what is going on. I want to give them more credit than that. No, I haven't seriously considered any of the previous theories to the the extent most everyone else has. Especially with Thelema. I knew it wasn't that. Well then, if you have all the answers trainer101, I have a few more things to ask you! He he! How long do you think LG15 will last? Do you believe we will all get our answers before it's finally over?
I have no idea how long but I'll play along as long as the vids keep coming. ALL the answers? I all honesty, I think WE provide the answers. Not trying to be cryptic but I think the idea is for us to become increasingly more involved in the plotline.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:22 pm
by trainer101
Kasdeja wrote:giggles at trainer
What is it with my eye that has you so preoccupied? It's a very nice eye, thank you - I like it!

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:22 pm
by Kasdeja
I'm just mean.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:24 pm
by trainer101
twjaniak wrote:
Wisi Girl wrote:trainer101: First of all, I didn't know that they would actually respond to us! That is really neat! I wonder how that fits in to this whole mess, though. It's fake but we must pretend that it's real because they, as the characters, continue to do so in the blogs. But then they read these forums? Do they, the characters, see how we know they're faking it? I'm confused. This is a fine line between fan and actor with this new form of entertainment, eh? Rather surreal in my opinion.
When I first created the in-character forums, I was told that those were the only forums that Bree, Daniel, etc. could see, as if the rest of the board didn't exist. Now we know that Daniel has read and commented on the rest of the forums in his videos, but that was before the in-character section went up, who knows how things will play out now.
I was kinda surprised by that myself but it's nice to know someone is reading our stuff. :)

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:28 pm
by Kasdeja
I really think that taking fan feedback is part of what has made so many things confusing and possibly caused the loose ends.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:36 pm
by thinkitthrough
Kasdeja and Wisi Girl I am not saying Trainer has all the answeres and that he is right, I just like his theory better than everyone elses thus far. Plus it fits the religion aspect of the creators not wanting to offend anyone, because there is no proof it is real. I have no real theory of my own and find it impossible to fit anything else into all these clues. I am not going to spend a ridiculous amount of time going through everyones old thoeries inorder to create a original one my self. I am open to all perspectives and I like this forum when people are nice enough to encourage others and listen to what others have to say instead of trying to always be right. I am not saying you are in any way doing that either, just telling you where I am coming from and how I feel about the forum. I also think that the story is written in a lot of ways to fit our needs as fans, most of the time.... I don't know don't listen to me I am wrong all the time anyway.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:49 pm
by thejyav
We really need a new video...I mean it was cool earlier when bree was answering questions on the board but she seems to be gone now....and we have nothing.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:51 pm
by Kasdeja
thinkitthrough wrote:Kasdeja and Wisi Girl I am not saying Trainer has all the answeres and that he is right, I just like his theory better than everyone elses thus far. Plus it fits the religion aspect of the creators not wanting to offend anyone, because there is no proof it is real. I have no real theory of my own and find it impossible to fit anything else into all these clues. I am not going to spend a ridiculous amount of time going through everyones old thoeries inorder to create a original one my self. I am open to all perspectives and I like this forum when people are nice enough to encourage others and listen to what others have to say instead of trying to always be right. I am not saying you are in any way doing that either, just telling you where I am coming from and how I feel about the forum. I also think that the story is written in a lot of ways to fit our needs as fans, most of the time.... I don't know don't listen to me I am wrong all the time anyway.
I'm not saying he's wrong or doesn't have a good theory. I never thought it was truly Thelema, I had actually argued against it...but there was a time when all the clues pointed to Thelema and when we thought we had it, it seemed like the creatatrons changed everything. Know what I mean? Like, if we figure it out, they change it. Please don't get defensive on my posts...trainer knows what I mean (I assume). That's what I have been saying...anyway...

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:12 pm
by thinkitthrough
Kasdeja wrote:
thinkitthrough wrote:Kasdeja and Wisi Girl I am not saying Trainer has all the answeres and that he is right, I just like his theory better than everyone elses thus far. Plus it fits the religion aspect of the creators not wanting to offend anyone, because there is no proof it is real. I have no real theory of my own and find it impossible to fit anything else into all these clues. I am not going to spend a ridiculous amount of time going through everyones old thoeries inorder to create a original one my self. I am open to all perspectives and I like this forum when people are nice enough to encourage others and listen to what others have to say instead of trying to always be right. I am not saying you are in any way doing that either, just telling you where I am coming from and how I feel about the forum. I also think that the story is written in a lot of ways to fit our needs as fans, most of the time.... I don't know don't listen to me I am wrong all the time anyway.
I'm not saying he's wrong or doesn't have a good theory. I never thought it was truly Thelema, I had actually argued against it...but there was a time when all the clues pointed to Thelema and when we thought we had it, it seemed like the creatatrons changed everything. Know what I mean? Like, if we figure it out, they change it. Please don't get defensive on my posts...trainer knows what I mean (I assume). That's what I have been saying...anyway...
You are fine I shouldn't have responded at all, I am just trying to keep my self involved when so many of you have great ideas and theories, I find it hard to keep up with everyone and the creators as well. You do have a point they like to swtich things up on us a lot and I am not sure why yet. Other than what others have said befor about the creators listening to what we say and doing it or doing the opposite of what we say or even more confusing both! Anyway keep your comments coming I like to hear from you and I am sorry if I came across defensive. That is my fault...