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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:53 pm
by longlostposter
OK, right before the DB groan, I hear Bree say, "Daniel, there's somebody...." then he groans.
I change my mind...I think Bree says, "Daniel, there's somebody...", then her mouth gets covered, and this is repeated right before each abduction.
They are abducted in sync, Bree sees the first one going after Daniel, and tries to warn him, but then they are all abducted at that instant.
This is what I'm sticking with.
I still believe Daniel is brain-washed, but for what purpose, I don't know. After rewatching the vid, I don't think he helped the abductors (I definitely think there are more than one).
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:54 pm
by Shaneener
Heyiknowsyou, could you take a screenshot at 0:30?
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:55 pm
by Misty
heyiknowsyou wrote:I don't remember anyone saying anything about it, but i was going through frame by frame and i saw a hand grabbing daniel.
It's just over his left shoulder, fisting in his shirt...
Also, if there is still any confusion about what happens to who and how, i can do some detailed screen shots, but as for the moment i don't think its needed.
Those would be appreciated. I don't see the hand though.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:58 pm
by Onewen
HisGirl wrote:this is me jumping on board with the they were all three captured at the same time theory!
It goes with the whole parallax theme, and makes sense why you hear jonas' name said all three times ppl are being abducted.
I am inclined to agree with you...that explains why there is no change in her tone as she is saying his name. You'd think if she is calling after him, she'd increase her volume and tone with each consecutive time...but she doesn't. If they were taken at the same time, the word "Jonas" is heard by
US 3 times, but in reality, only spoken once...
oh ya...i'm over the line...hahaha...sorry if that's confusing!
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:02 pm
by Chelseyrl
The only thing that makes me question them being napped at the same time is the fact that as soon as one person (supposedly) disappears, another character starts walking or pacing and getting annoyed at how long the other one is taking...
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:04 pm
by longlostposter
HisGirl wrote:this is me jumping on board with the they were all three captured at the same time theory!
It goes with the whole parallax theme, and makes sense why you hear jonas' name said all three times ppl are being abducted.
Ha haha. That was my theory!
I'm so proud, cause this is the only thing I'm sure about at this time.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:06 pm
by Smelltheflowers
longlostposter wrote:HisGirl wrote:this is me jumping on board with the they were all three captured at the same time theory!
It goes with the whole parallax theme, and makes sense why you hear jonas' name said all three times ppl are being abducted.
Ha haha. That was my theory!
I'm so proud, cause this is the only thing I'm sure about at this time.
The only thing I'm 'sure of' at this point is that I'm not sure of anything!
I do have a very strong gut feeling that Bree recognized whoever was standing behind her, though. I don't know why, but her reaction just seemed to indicate surprise (Maybe of seeing someone she recognizes, but not expecting them to be there) and not fear.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:06 pm
by lonelygirl
Kimmi-Chan wrote:Hey it could be Jonas' parents, am I the only one who thinks that Bree is Jonas' biological twin but the order took her away? They may not have always been in the resistance.
how can they be twins when they're a few years apart?
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:08 pm
by heyiknowsyou
Misty, i'll start on that right away.
It'll be a few minutes, though.
Shaneerer, i'm not sure what you wanted at :30, since theres a few frames there, but it looks like daniel and jonas getting into the SUV:
(Daniel, white shirt)
(Jonas, black shirt)
I hope that helps
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:08 pm
by looking4answers
Chelseyrl wrote:The only thing that makes me question them being napped at the same time is the fact that as soon as one person (supposedly) disappears, another character starts walking or pacing and getting annoyed at how long the other one is taking...
Which is along the lines of what I was thinking. I think that if Bree saw Daniel get abducted, why didn't she run off and get Jonas? Why would she stick around acting so calm? Why wouldn't she she go get help or something? I don't think she knew.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:11 pm
by ShardinsKitten
Lurker wrote:robtomorrow wrote:If you read through this thread many people were confused until someone posted the statement by the Creators that this is the first of the "private videos", and people are still confused as to who sees it. Not to mention all the people who haven't been following the discussion on the topic.
I always read every post before posting, rob, so I saw those posts you're referring to - but I only saw
three people that expressed anything resembling confusion and they were longtime/regular posters that acknowledged the private transmissions concept in their posts (suggesting to me they were all familiar with the Creators' thread on the subject) and the same or subsequent posts by two of them demonstrated that they actually understood how it worked and who this particular video was by and for.
That's why I was confused at there being confusion or talk that the Creators hadn't made an effort to make it clear what was going on in your and Shardins' posts (they maybe didn't take suggestions exactly as they were given to them, but they did something infinitely more simple that served the same purpose).
And as far as I can tell, everyone actually picked up on this being the first private video right from the start (no one had to post that this was the case). There were just two mild cases of uncertainty and one case of actual confusion regarding who it was by and for (but still recognition of what it was meant to be).
Anyway, this seems like it would have been a good opportunity to trigger Daniel if he, indeed, has a trigger (maybe he drove the other vehicle back to base?).
not entirely true, I've had to explain it to at least 10 people, that are active members of the forums, just didn't happen to be in this thread.
There are better ways to do this, that have been suggested to the creators. Especially since not everyone that watches the vids are on this forum. *shrugs* It's a good idea, I'm not saying it's not. Not that this is really the place to get on a huge debate about it.
So in other news. Has anyone thought of WHY the three of them split up to start with???
I mean we saw Bree and DB in the store together, Jonas was pumping gas. Then all of a sudden DB and Bree are off separately like looking for Jonas (I'm guessing) and then we see him (Jonas) sitting in the car??
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:11 pm
by Shaneener
-pokes first frame-
THAT IS JONAS!
INNA BLACK SHIRT!
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:12 pm
by chevyfudd
Maybe jonas was told he was older than what he he really is, kinda like in Almost Famous, ok this is made to be a joke, lol.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:13 pm
by Shaneener
Oh, and THANKS heyiknowsyou!
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:13 pm
by FyodorReader
anyone else notice the weird bird noises? i thought it was morse code at first... or maybe the sound of water droplets... but it really does sound like some kind of swallow near the end... relevant?