[Tee Hee][Important] Do you like carrot cake?

[sphinx]

And now it comes out that carrot cake may lead us all to a Children of Men type senario

Trans fats linked to infertility in women

JOHN INNES

Trans fats, used to cook foods like French fries and found in biscuits, dramatically increase a woman's risk of becoming infertile, according to new research.

Scientists found that for every two per cent increase in the number of calories a woman got from trans fats instead of carbohydrates, her risk of infertility increased by 73 per cent. Scientists believe trans fats - found mostly in processed vegetable oils - interfere with cells that play a vital role in ovulation.

and goes on to say...

They are used in a wide variety of products including carrot cakes, biscuits and pastries. The team estimated that if a woman is eating 1,800 calories a day, two per cent of energy intake in trans fats would equal just four grammes.

So eat at your own risk ladies, you are speeding us toward extinction

With the prevalence of non-hydrogenated oils on the market today, this argument is out-dated and misleading.
Not to mention the fact that, as an avid Carrot Cake connoisseur, I personally have no problem in this area, and have the post-childbirth hips to prove it!

And before Tilt or Sphinx say anything, yes I am aware that RAW carrots are known to increase fertility. However, once you put them in an oven for 30 minutes to an hour, they are no longer raw, and lose a lot of their vitamin and mineral benefits.

Errrrrrrrnnnnnnnnt... Wrong again!

Unless the carrot is juiced then consumed, the body cannot break down the nutirients because of the cellular nature of the carrot.

So in reality, unlike most other vegetables (though not all), carrots are more nutritious when eaten cooked than eaten raw (except when juiced). Because raw carrots have tough cellular walls, the body is able to convert less than 25 per cent of their beta carotene into vitamin A. Cooking, however, partially dissolves cellulose-thickened cell walls, freeing up nutrients by breaking down the cell membranes.
Experiments show that eating cooked carrots is much more beneficial than eating raw carrots, which confirms the ancient wisdom in traditional Chinese medicine. Traditional Chinese medicine practitioners have always recommended that their patients eat cooked carrots in order to get the best nutritional absorption. Recent research by Dr. Xiangdong Wang at Tufts University shows that beta carotene can change in the human body into a substance called retinoic acid, which is widely used to treat cancers.

Seriously Lad, this is getting too easy.

I suggest you take Acid's lead.
Great rewards await the chosen few who can see even a fraction of the wisdom and truth that is right before their very eyes.

[ladron121]

Oh Sphinx, way to leave out information to make yourself correct. Tsk Tsk.

Your "they are more healthy when cooked" theory only applies to WHOLE CARROTS. If the carrots are in any way cut or sliced (which I believe they are in carrot cake) then they lose 1/2 of their potency. So unless you are baking carrot cake with whole carrots, you just wasted some valuable real estate in this thread. Also, in order to actually absorb those extra nutrients from the WHOLE CARROTS, you would have to eat a meal that had fat in it. Fat leads to trans fat, which leads to infertility.

Maybe the fact that you can have children doesn't speak to the fact that the study is wrong, but to the fact that you have been misleading your own flock. Do you actually eat carrot cake at all Sphinx? When was the last time anyone actually saw you eat a piece of the devil's baked good? Or are you a poser? Hmmmmmmm.....

And acid is a traitor. I think that he switched sides less for the actual food product, and more for the women who support it. You may have seduced him Sphinx, with all your charms, but it will not work on me. I don't care how often you growl at me

[Danielle]

this caliber of an arguement would only happen here.

[sphinx]

Oh Sphinx, way to leave out information to make yourself correct. Tsk Tsk.

Your "they are more healthy when cooked" theory only applies to WHOLE CARROTS. If the carrots are in any way cut or sliced (which I believe they are in carrot cake) then they lose 1/2 of their potency. So unless you are baking carrot cake with whole carrots, you just wasted some valuable real estate in this thread. Also, in order to actually absorb those extra nutrients from the WHOLE CARROTS, you would have to eat a meal that had fat in it. Fat leads to trans fat, which leads to infertility.

Actually, the addition of the information you have provided further proves my point.

You are starting to break. I am glad.

Because raw carrots have tough cellular walls, the body is able to convert less than 25% of their beta carotene into vitamin A.

Cooking them cut as they are in Carrot Cake the number jumps to 50%.

A 100% gain.

Maybe the fact that you can have children doesn't speak to the fact that the study is wrong, but to the fact that you have been misleading your own flock. Do you actually eat carrot cake at all Sphinx? When was the last time anyone actually saw you eat a piece of the devil's baked good? Or are you a poser? Hmmmmmmm.....

Baby Sphinx eating Carrot Cake on her 2nd Birthday (it was the 70's, we weren't wealthy, and my mom made all my clothes. If you make fun of my dress I'll kick your ass!)


Note the cream cheese frosting and the walnuts.
My mother makes a mean Carrot Cake. Our Slovak family recipe has been passed on for many generations. I continue this tradition.

Your poser insinuation is absurd; however, I am inclined to think it is actually you, Lad, who is doing the posing.
I'm am quite convinced you have never actually tried Carrot Cake at all, and are basing your hatred for it solely on the fact that when you were a child, it "looked funny".

And acid is a traitor. I think that he switched sides less for the actual food product, and more for the women who support it. You may have seduced him Sphinx, with all your charms, but it will not work on me. I don't care how often you growl at me

Oh please, Acid's conversion had absolutely nothing to do with the Carrot Cake in the Cleavage pics. There does come a time Lad, when simple reasoning must take precedence over a stubborn refusal to see the truth.

The time is now.

[ladron121]

You are starting to break. I am glad.

Because raw carrots have tough cellular walls, the body is able to convert less than 25% of their beta carotene into vitamin A.

Cooking them cut as they are in Carrot Cake the number jumps to 50%.

A 100% gain.

I am no further from breaking than when I started. Only a fool, however, ignores when his adversaries are correct. I am not a maniacal madman, just a simple soldier trying to show the world that carrot cake is an affront to any deity one might worship.

And only your side, with its "fuzzy math", would consider a 50% loss of nutrients a 100% gain. Any win you can fake, I guess...

Baby Sphinx eating Carrot Cake on her 2nd Birthday (it was the 70's, we weren't wealthy, and my mom made all my clothes. If you make fun of my dress I'll kick your ass!)



Note the cream cheese frosting and the walnuts.
My mother makes a mean Carrot Cake. Our Slovak family recipe has been passed on for many generations. I continue this tradition.

Your poser insinuation is absurd; however, I am inclined to think it is actually you, Lad, who is doing the posing.
I'm am quite convinced you have never actually tried Carrot Cake at all, and are basing your hatred for it solely on the fact that when you were a child, it "looked funny".

That looks more like white cake to me Sphinx, I see no spice nor any carrots in it. Plus you were 2, so how do YOU even remember if it was carrot cake or not? I think maybe your parents have brainwashed you into believing this for this reason: you never liked carrot cake as a child, but that would mean that you would not carry on the family tradition, so they created this story so that you would continue to bake the evil stuff. I have tried carrot cake, on several occasions, a few of those without being informed that what I was ingesting was carrot cake. I promptly put my fork down after one bite, and spit the cake in my mouth into the nearest napkin. Carrots do not belong in cake, period.

Oh please, Acid's conversion had absolutely nothing to do with the Carrot Cake in the Cleavage pics.

See, now that hurts. If you are so intent on convincing me of the "goodness" of carrot cake, why don't I get to see those pics?

p.s. I would never make fun of your dress, to insinuate that I would is an insult to me and my status as a gentleman.

[Danielle]

zomg.

i wish kids still dressed like that.

[horcruxes]

zomg.

i wish kids still dressed like that.

are you calling sphinx old?



jay kay

[sphinx]

Well...

I didn't get to make my carrot cake

Unfortunately, on my way out to get the carrots and to pick up my Centrum Silver, I slipped so hard on some ice yesterday that my dentures flew 10 feet across the sidewalk! Then, to make matters worse, while I was trying to reach for my walker, I fell again and broke my hip

Luckily, I was wearing my Medic Alert pendant, and told them I had fallen and couldn't get up. If it wasn't for those wonderful people, I just don't know what I would have done.

[ladron121]

Carrot cake causes premature aging.

[tiltingwindward]

It is painful for me to have to jump back into this thread while I'm supposed to be studying for an exam, but here I am, once again selflessly sacrificing my future to combat the misinformation Lad is spreading (by himself, apparently).

I must admit, I am feeling a bit like Leonidas of Sparta, leading so few soldiers into battle against the legions of Xerxes I of Persia at the Battle of Thermopylae.

But we all know what just a few Spartans can do


And acid, poor poor acid, you are my Ephialtes. You will not escape the reward of your action traitor!

Lad, although in all other things you may indeed be descended from the gods, you are no Leonides here. After all, we all know that he fed his men an ancient Spartan version of carrot cake before that epic battle. Didn't you read your history?

I'll leave you with the thoughts of another great lover of carrot cake, the master Thucydides who chronicled the Peloponnesian War:

"But, the bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision of what is before them, glory and danger alike, and yet notwithstanding, go out to eat it."

[ladron121]

Lad, although in all other things you may indeed be descended from the gods, you are no Leonides here. After all, we all know that he fed his men an ancient Spartan version of carrot cake before that epic battle. Didn't you read your history?

I must have missed that part. Why don't you direct me to the proof of this statement Tilt? My understanding is that the Spartans really didn't bake at all, spending most of their time training for battle.

I'll leave you with the thoughts of another great lover of carrot cake, the master Thucydides who chronicled the Peloponnesian War:

"But, the bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision of what is before them, glory and danger alike, and yet notwithstanding, go out to eat it."

I think I'll avoid pointing out the "typo" in your quote. And I will add that Thucydides was exiled from his homeland because he lost Amphipolis to the SPARTANS!!!! Way to pick your role models Tilt.

[tiltingwindward]

I'm sorry Lad, are you accusing my of choosing my role models from the opponents to the Spartans? Let me just point out that the Spartans routinely abandoned the weak the disabled, and the old to die on cold hillsides. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who fought their perfidy is to be commended, even if he failed in his attempt.

And just for the record....I'd like to point out that I am a liberal internationalist, not a realist, so Thucydides is NOT my role model. Bah.

[ladron121]

Abandon the weak so the strong may thrive. I don't see that as a losing strategy. But now I'm kinda feeling like Rambo, a one man army against evil.

I have been forsaken, I understand that. And your lack of realism explains why you reside in this fantasy world where carrot cake is good.

[sphinx]

Carrot cake causes premature aging.

Carrot Cake Haters, due to a lack of imagination and sense of humor, along with inferior cognitive abilities, are unable to comprehend many literary devices, eg. satire.

[ladron121]

Carrot cake causes premature aging.

Carrot Cake Haters, due to a lack of imagination and sense of humor, along with inferior cognitive abilities, are unable to comprehend many literary devices, eg. satire.

And carrot cake lovers tend to use satire to mask the fact that they don't have anything constructive to say. They also pile on the personal attacks when they feel threatened, or know they are about to lose an argument.