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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:19 am
by autumneternal
Macabea13 wrote:Not sure about Clear Lake ( and am embarrassed since I grew up in NorCal) but thinking it is very funny that Cow Mountain is right next to Ukiah.....our Hathor enthusiasts should be very happy.
Well, at the very least, I know that when lad picked up the drop, (Daniel's fake ID), he posted pictures of Clear Lake...so I assumed it was somewhere around there.

To bring this back around so that it's on topic...I think that Clearlake, (or a place similar to it), would probably be the perfect setting for an isolated house where either Daniel is being held prisoner. It's an extremely isolated place...way up in the mountains, of course!

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:22 am
by ShardinsKitten
:.distant.spectator.: wrote:Perhaps I missed this, which I'm almost sure I did, but isn't it strange that Jonas and Bree were behind the van insted of in front to it?

They knew where they were going before they left?
I said this before up there. He wasn't that far ahead of them, he could easily fall back behind them again, it doesn't look like there are many exits on that stretch. He could of pulled ahead so that Jonas and Bree don't notice this white van behind them the whole time. If it bounces back and forth ahead and behind them, it could just be a random person headed in the same direction type thing.

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:23 am
by autumneternal
ShardinsKitten wrote:Yea Autumn that's my other thought too. They have to have someone else on their side.

I still Jonas is with holding something. And that song, wayyyy random and creepy. Plus i think there is more to do with his parents then he is letting on. I mean they just "disappeared".

There has to be more to Jonas's role here. Plus why didn't Bree go in the bowling alley with him, but then there was the Bowling Alley shot, in the middle of the vid.
I wouldn't doubt that Jonas is withholding something, but I doubt that it's something that would negatively impact Bree. As for the song, I really just think it was a joke directed at forum-goers because, as of late, the theory that Jonas is with the Order has exploded. I'm pretty sure it was in jest.

I do think there's likely more to the disappearance of his parents, but I'm not entirely sure he knows all the details of it. I think he knows more than he's letting on, but not everything there is to know about it.

Maybe Bree DID go into the bowling alley, and, when she got the text from Daniel, she stepped outside to try and call him. I mean, it was stated before that there was poor reception in the area. I assume that reception outside is better than that inside.

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:23 am
by aideen
If it's a big holiday house with lots of windows and rafters and a lake and an atrium, I will freak out and replace Bree with the girl from When a Stranger Calls

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:24 am
by chevyfudd
they probably figured the bartender would send them to the mountains, so the van wasn't concerned about being in front of or behind them because they already knew where they were headed.

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:27 am
by autumneternal
aideen wrote:If it's a big holiday house with lots of windows and rafters and a lake and an atrium, I will freak out and replace Bree with the girl from When a Stranger Calls
"Have you checked the Danielbeast?"

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:29 am
by fsk282
OMG so i have been dying for some action and now when we finally get it i am freaking out! i don't want bree//danielbeast//jonas to be unsafe! this was the creepiest (BEST!) video ever!
that guy by the van does look like bree's dad, whoever said daniel was locked up in the back gave me goosebumps. of course, so has everything i've read so far! ...what's the deal with the cross? is it a tarot card?
also i don't think jonas is bad...well i hope not at least. remember awhile ago where there was that thread where he was getting linked to tachyon?
i hope daniel is with brother but i doubt it... :(
i have to go to work now and i don't wanna!

oh and chevy i LOVE your avatar.

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:31 am
by ShardinsKitten
fsk282 wrote:OMG so i have been dying for some action and now when we finally get it i am freaking out! i don't want bree//danielbeast//jonas to be unsafe! this was the creepiest (BEST!) video ever!
that guy by the van does look like bree's dad, whoever said daniel was locked up in the back gave me goosebumps. of course, so has everything i've read so far! ...what's the deal with the cross? is it a tarot card?
also i don't think jonas is bad...well i hope not at least. remember awhile ago where there was that thread where he was getting linked to tachyon?
i hope daniel is with brother but i doubt it... :(
i have to go to work now and i don't wanna!

oh and chevy i LOVE your avatar.

I really don't think in this instance it is linking to tarot reading. One of the most common layouts for tarot reading however is the celtic cross, but i really think that has not bearing here.

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:33 am
by chevyfudd
oh and chevy i LOVE your avatar.[/quote]

Thanks I love alice in wonderland and sorry for giving you goosebumps. But hey that would be freaky if he was in the back.


everytime I watch the video the black at the end gives me the goosebumps.

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:34 am
by khjq
Where did they upload this video at? Did they upload it at that guys house? Maybe Daniel was there and he was just fine, and he went home with that guy cause either the dude knew something about the Order, or it was just late and Daniel was too drunk so the dude decided to take him home with him, I dunno. Or were they not able to find Daniel so they went back to Jonas' house, and uploaded it there?

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:35 am
by JustAnotherLonelyGirl.
xrockette19x wrote:i really think this is clearly not an anagram. so...i hope we can give up on that now. it obv does not anagram to anything relevant, there are not enough letters.

also, in reference to it being 'not good', i think if it was supposed to be not good, it would have been. that just kind of seems like unnecessary speculation to try and make sense of something we are not supposed to understand yet. we've had to research and rearrange things before, but not just make stuff up.
I very strongly agree with you.

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:47 am
by autumneternal
Hmm, I wanted to point something else out that no one else has yet.

How did Daniel drink at the bowling alley without his fake ID? Are we just assuming that the dude bought his drinks for him?

If that's the case, what's some random local guy doing trying to get a minor buzzed or drunk? I guess the logical answer is that he was trying to get Daniel incapacitated enough to lure him back to his house.

I still found it odd though.

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:48 am
by JustAnotherLonelyGirl.
trainer101 wrote:GENERIC NAME: epoetin alfa
BRAND NAME: Epogen, Procrit
The erythropoietin that is used for therapy, called epoetin alfa, is man-made. It is a product of the genetic engineering of ovarian cells of the Chinese hamster and is produced through recombinant DNA technology in bacteria.

http://www.medicinenet.com/epoetin_alfa/article.htm
I'm still trying to understand why hamster relates to this particular video, though. Could they have used it on Daniel? Maybe drugged him.. mind control.. kind of like what they (theoretically) did to Bree?

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:49 am
by Beckers
I was wondering that myself but I think it is discussed somewhere in the forum.

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:54 am
by autumneternal
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:I'm still trying to understand why hamster relates to this particular video, though. Could they have used it on Daniel? Maybe drugged him.. mind control.. kind of like what they (theoretically) did to Bree?
I know you're just making a suggestion, but, even if they did use Epogen on Daniel, the question remains...how would Bree and Jonas know about that right now?

That's why I'm with you in failing to see how hamster being related to Epogen is related to this particular video.
Beckers wrote:I was wondering that myself but I think it is discussed somewhere in the forum.
To whom are you replying?