[PUZZLE][SOLVED] Semiotics 2/22/07

Balmung · Post by **Balmung** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:53 am

ok ziola i guess my methods weren't any better haha

all i got were three possibly identifiable books, two of which i'm pretty sure have already been identified, but i just thought i'd post screenshots to verify to everyone what's goin on. i don't think i've heard anything about the 2nd one, though..

and the rest are for sure totally unidentifiable [from the video]

i suggest someone message daniel asking him what books he has. i don't see any reason he would have not to tell anyone that.

Edited: to add pictures

PinkoLady · Post by **PinkoLady** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:53 am

Does anyone have a screen shot of where it looks like "The Password to Lackspur Lanen"?

Dejajeva · Post by **Dejajeva** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:54 am

Here are the screenshots I got, if they help any. I don't know.

tiltingwindward · Post by **tiltingwindward** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:55 am

Tachyon's YT profile has not changed.

Dejajeva · Post by **Dejajeva** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:56 am

PinkoLady wrote:Does anyone have a screen shot of where it looks like "The Password to Lackspur Lanen"?

The first one that I just posted. On the right. Here's the actual book shot.

deagol · Post by **deagol** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:03 am

Ruberic wrote:Longlostposter:

Thats the trick. Semiotics is a little fuzzy here. Anything can be a message or symbol, you have to decipher what it means to you, and hope that the sender is the same.

Example: Looking for a bathroom. Most western civilizaitons post symbols of men and women...or use the words "men" or "women". The creator of the symbol, and we as the bathroom users, have grown accustom to recognizing the symbol being the same as the words they represent...with noone really needing to stand there and explain it each time.

However...if we were not from the west and could not read English...the word would be impossible for us. Thats where the symbols help. The symbols are just of a man or woman...but the mind makes them into the symbol representing the appropriate bathrooms.

IF tachyon is using Semiotics...we need to find that passage/word/etc. that would represent itself as a flag to the password, using all the tips left by Tachyon.

Would that be semiotistic enough? Tachyon included that postcard in drop 5. On the other side was the second message to Daniel (decoded from hex):

GLAD YOU FINALLY UNDERSTOOD MY MESSAGE. DON'T FOLLOW UP A SMART MOVE WITH A STUPID ONE...AND WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T GO HOME.

The words I get from those symbols are travel, tourism, vacation, but none work.

Edit: maybe 'semiotic' refers to the stuff we'll find inside the archive. It's usually bad security practice to use a password that is in any way related with the filename of the archive you're encoding.

Balmung · Post by **Balmung** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:07 am

very nice dejajeva

i didn't think we'd be able to get anything out of those last two,

but it looks like the one on the right in the first pic u posted is definately password to larkspur lane.

deagol · Post by **deagol** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:11 am

I think I can make out "The Password to Larkspur Lane" on the first cap from Dejajeva, the book on top.

PinkoLady · Post by **PinkoLady** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:16 am

Dejajeva wrote:
PinkoLady wrote:Does anyone have a screen shot of where it looks like "The Password to Lackspur Lanen"?
The first one that I just posted. On the right.

Hmm, that doesn't look like... is it Lackspur Lanen or Larkspur Lane?? Because when I said "Lackspur Lanen" I copied/pasted that from someone =P

Anyway, I don't think the one on the right is it-- she's facing the wrong way. Her face should be turned toward the spine of the book, and her body away from it, and it looks like she should be wearing pink...

note: there are three covers for Larkspur Lane, and none of them look like quite like the top book on the right.

deagol · Post by **deagol** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:26 am

PinkoLady wrote:
Dejajeva wrote:
PinkoLady wrote:Does anyone have a screen shot of where it looks like "The Password to Lackspur Lanen"?
The first one that I just posted. On the right.
Hmm, that doesn't look like... is it Lackspur Lanen or Larkspur Lane?? Because when I said "Lackspur Lanen" I copied/pasted that from someone =P

Anyway, I don't think the one on the right is it-- she's facing the wrong way. She should be turned toward the spine of the book, rather than away from it, and it looks like she should be wearing pink...

note: there are only two covers for Larkspur Lane, and neither of them look like the top book on the right.

Yea I also copied/paste from someone else's post (I think yours hehe). It's Larkspur Lane.

But I do see her facing away from the spine in the video. And the colors always change a bit with variations in the cover print run, light conditions, the video camera, encoding for revver, then decoding in Dejajeva's PC, gamma settings, the screen cap encoding one more time, and compression. I don't see pink, I see kind of brownish tint. And look at the title word's length in the cap, it matches:

LOOONGWORD SHRT
MIDWORD MIDWRD

PASSWORD TO
LARKSPUR LANE

Balmung · Post by **Balmung** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:31 am

these four are for part of his set, and the secret of the old clock is definately NOT part of his set.
The Clue in the Diary - #07

The Password to Larkspur Lane - #10 [on the right]

The Quest of the Missing Map - #19

The Secret of the Forgotten City - #52

here's the real question:

what's the last book? it's definately not 'The Secret of the Old Clock', the title is too long. this is the only unidentified book: [on the left]

it looks to me like 3 words, two on the top, and one on the bottom.
the last word looks an awful lot like 'children', but i wikipedia'd all the books and none of them end with 'children'. so the search continues..

p.s. i know a lot of this may be redundant, but i wanted to get it all organized nicely in one place.

lookyz · Post by **lookyz** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:40 am

janesalteredstates wrote:OK so I took the first letters of each line of the note:
X X X X X X X X X X X
where it all started
the answer is before you
a subtle clue I Drew

xoxox,
T

y y y

Got Xwtaxy
Did the tinyurl thing:
http://tinyurl.com/Xwtaxy

Refreshes to:

The name of the image is: one1dr1.gif

11 dr = drew? 1? I don't know.

I don't think it's relevant. Probably just a coincidence, but hey, why not post it.

WAs this totally ruled out? It made me think of Bree's "Star Girl" anecdote, which I think linked into her story about how she & Daniel started hanging out. I don't have the software (and it's uber late).

Also was thinking about Tach's past/beginnings - like something about time in suburbia...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGCGppptJY0
In the description for this vid is this:
I guess that's what friends are for, right? After all: We speak each other's unspoken language, fluently.

I know it had another meaning in a prior puzzle, but thought it might be food for thought for all of you in more favorable time zones...

PinkoLady · Post by **PinkoLady** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:45 am

deagol wrote:
But I do see her facing away from the spine in the video. And the colors always change a bit with variations in the cover print run, light conditions, the video camera, encoding for revver, then decoding in Dejajeva's PC, gamma settings, the screen cap encoding one more time, and compression. I don't see pink, I see kind of brownish tint. And look at the title word's length in the cap, it matches:

LOOONGWORD SHRT
MIDWORD MIDWRD

PASSWORD TO
LARKSPUR LANE

Her body is, but her face isn't... even if she is facing away from the spine though, the shapes don't match up at all. The old lady's head should be lower than hers, as on the cover we have of of Larkspur Lane-- if you look at the book, the lighter on the left is much lower than the figure to the right of it. The title looks way to blurry to know for sure where the breaks are, and there are several that fit in to two lines that way.

Anyway, I haven't found a title that looks quite right yet, but Larkspur lane-- color aside-- doesn't look like the book in the screen shot to me at all.

Luminous · Post by **Luminous** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:47 am

Where it all started.

I couldn't let that one get by.

Balmung · Post by **Balmung** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:51 am

PinkoLady wrote:
deagol wrote:
But I do see her facing away from the spine in the video. And the colors always change a bit with variations in the cover print run, light conditions, the video camera, encoding for revver, then decoding in Dejajeva's PC, gamma settings, the screen cap encoding one more time, and compression. I don't see pink, I see kind of brownish tint. And look at the title word's length in the cap, it matches:

LOOONGWORD SHRT
MIDWORD MIDWRD

PASSWORD TO
LARKSPUR LANE
Her body is, but her face isn't... even if she is facing away from the spine though, the shapes don't match up at all. The old lady's head should be lower than hers, as on the cover we have of of Larkspur Lane-- if you look at the book, the lighter on the left is much lower than the figure to the right of it. The title looks way to blurry to know for sure where the breaks are, and there are several that fit in to two lines that way.

Anyway, I haven't found a title that looks quite right yet, but Larkspur lane-- color aside-- doesn't look like the book in the screen shot to me at all.

you really don't see it?

ok lemme explain all the things i see that are the same.

nancy's chin draws a somewhat straight line with the old lady's face. same in both books.

the highlights from the sunset are level with nancy's face.

the white blotch that is the mansion is juuuust above nancy's boobies lol

if you still don't see it, i can draw it out and highlight everything on paint lol