0124 - "Looking for Daniel" [1/29/07]

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:56 am

autumneternal wrote:Hmm, I wanted to point something else out that no one else has yet.

How did Daniel drink at the bowling alley without his fake ID? Are we just assuming that the dude bought his drinks for him?

If that's the case, what's some random local guy doing trying to get a minor bussed or drunk? I guess the logical answer is that he was trying to get Daniel incapacitated enough to lure him back to his house.

I still found it odd though.

Someone asked that somewhere else too, and I don't remember Daniel saying he intended to drink. In fact, considering the negative outcome of his last drinking binge, he may have chosen to avoid alcohol in his effort to be cool and pick up chicks.

Also, I have been a strong advocate for the Jonas/Tachyon connection theory for a long time now. I think Jonas is a good guy, but I do agree he has some skeletons in his closet.... or, parents' room.

Not saying that literally there are skeletons btw, don't freak out... it's an expression.

ShardinsKitten · Post by **ShardinsKitten** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:58 am

small town.. maybe it was the same bartender and he recognized DB, which means no need for the ID the bartender would have already seen it. Small towns, typically you remember people, everyone knows everyone, and you would know/remember someone new. Especially with the scene it sounded like DB made last time he was there. Or maybe I'm underestimating the size of this town and it's a lil bigger then the "small town" thing. But this theory could still be valid even if it is a lil bigger town.

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:59 am

autumneternal wrote:
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:I'm still trying to understand why hamster relates to this particular video, though. Could they have used it on Daniel? Maybe drugged him.. mind control.. kind of like what they (theoretically) did to Bree?
I know you're just making a suggestion, but, even if they did use Epogen on Daniel, the question remains...how would Bree and Jonas know about that right now?

That's why I'm with you in failing to see how hamster being related to Epogen is related to this particular video.

True, I didn't even think of it that way, that Bree and Jonas actually put up the tags. But then again, Bree didn't know until recently about the Epogen, so that would mean hamster had nothing to do with it in the first place. I always took the tags as hints from the Creators, kind of. Because Bree didn't put up hamster months ago to tell us about Epogen- she didn't know what she was being induced with.

However, if we do go with the theory that they could not have known and thus not put up the hamster tag, maybe someone (COUGH OPAPHID) did it...

Still though, I think that totally undermines the reasoning that hamster is related to Epogen.

autumneternal · Post by **autumneternal** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:01 am

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:Someone asked that somewhere else too, and I don't remember Daniel saying he intended to drink. In fact, considering the negative outcome of his last drinking binge, he may have chosen to avoid alcohol in his effort to be cool and pick up chicks.

I believe it might even have been me who inquited around the time of 'For the Ladies' how Daniel was going to drink without his fake ID. However, specific to this video, Bree tells us that the bartender mentioned that Daniel was drinking with a local. To me, 'drinking' implies alcohol...which is why I questioned it here.

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:Also, I have been a strong advocate for the Jonas/Tachyon connection theory for a long time now. I think Jonas is a good guy, but I do agree he has some skeletons in his closet.... or, parents' room.
Not saying that literally there are skeletons btw, don't freak out... it's an expression.

I'm with you on advocating the Jonas/Tachyon connection, definitely! It'd be a much better plot twist, IMO, than Jonas being a part of the Order.
And I'm familiar with the expression, lol...I really hope that not too many people these days take it literally, though I suppose you never know what's in Jonas' parents room...

aideen · Post by **aideen** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:02 am

autumneternal wrote:
aideen wrote:If it's a big holiday house with lots of windows and rafters and a lake and an atrium, I will freak out and replace Bree with the girl from When a Stranger Calls
"Have you checked the Danielbeast?"

-shiver-

"So, how was the Danielbeast?"

::screaming::

I am so going to have nightmares tonight

DARN YOU! GOING ALONG WITH MY SICK FANTASY!

alysaface · Post by **alysaface** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:08 am

ok noone's ever mentioned this before.. with jonas being the rich guy he is and all..

he probably has that wireless internet card thing with his laptop, the one you can take anywhere and have internet at all times..

would explain alot

aideen · Post by **aideen** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:09 am

alysaface wrote:ok noone's ever mentioned this before.. with jonas being the rich guy he is and all..

he probably has that wireless internet card thing with his laptop, the one you can take anywhere and have internet at all times..

would explain alot

I agree, that's what I originally thought and have come to the conclusion of after hearing everyone going on about how they could have posted it, on YT and Revver

Not that I'm against Oppy having done it

alysaface · Post by **alysaface** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:12 am

yeah i'm always for my lovely wonderful evil oppy doing mean evil wonderful things, but still..

and anyways it's not even that expensive.. its like 50 bucks a month..

autumneternal · Post by **autumneternal** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:15 am

aideen wrote:-shiver-

"So, how was the Danielbeast?"

::screaming::

I am so going to have nightmares tonight

DARN YOU! GOING ALONG WITH MY SICK FANTASY!

I aim to terrif....I mean, please.

BTW, aideen, I recognized you! Now I won't confuse you with Josh anymore because you two had similar avatars.

::end thread-jacking::

alysaface wrote:ok noone's ever mentioned this before.. with jonas being the rich guy he is and all..

he probably has that wireless internet card thing with his laptop, the one you can take anywhere and have internet at all times..

would explain alot

I'd buy into this theory. I think that covers that mystery, (at least, in my mind).

alysaface · Post by **alysaface** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:16 am

terrifying=pleasing which ='s why i <3'ed cassie so so very very much.

autumneternal · Post by **autumneternal** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:17 am

alysaface wrote:terrifying=pleasing which ='s why i <3'ed cassie so so very very much.

I agree that terrifying = pleasing. I love horror movies, and, if this current plot twist turns into something along the lines of a horror movie, (not gruesome...just suspenseful), I'm going to be all over it.

alysaface · Post by **alysaface** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:25 am

i like gruesome just as much as i like horror, i'm a weirdo though

and i'm also a weirdo about being scared..

i loveeeee to be scared, but i get scared to get scared if that makes any sense, haha.

esp. w/ horror videogames. hehehe

oh yeah /end offtopicness.

going to bed. <3

aideen · Post by **aideen** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:29 am

autumneternal wrote:
aideen wrote:-shiver-

"So, how was the Danielbeast?"

::screaming::

I am so going to have nightmares tonight

DARN YOU! GOING ALONG WITH MY SICK FANTASY!
I aim to terrif....I mean, please.

BTW, aideen, I recognized you! Now I won't confuse you with Josh anymore because you two had similar avatars.

::end thread-jacking::

-skin prickles-

Heh, that's .. great ^^;

-backs up-

Damn, I wish people would confuse me with Josh :/

autumneternal · Post by **autumneternal** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:29 am

alysaface wrote:i like gruesome just as much as i like horror, i'm a weirdo though

and i'm also a weirdo about being scared..

i loveeeee to be scared, but i get scared to get scared if that makes any sense, haha.

esp. w/ horror videogames. hehehe

I love gruesome too, I just don't think it'd fit in LG15, ya know?

I sometimes get scared to be scared too, but I think that makes it more fun and thrilling, at least in my personal experience. If I just go to a scary movie, knowing it's going to be scary, I enjoy it, but if I work myself up about how scary it'll be beforehand, I have much more fun.

Anyways, if the ominous setting of the rain and dark clouds at the end of this video, plus the abrupt cut-off, aren't set-ups for something horrifying or suspenseful to happen, I don't know what is!

Edited to say I think I'm heading to bed as well, so as to stop myself from further jacking this thread...

sofly718 · Post by **sofly718** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:36 am

Thinking about this from an objective and logial standpoint, there must be a reason why Jonas said that he frequently visited the bowling alley AND there must be a reason why Jonas mentioned that the person Daniel left with was a local - if there weren't a reason, why would it be mentioned? Could Jonas be the local that Daniel left with? Certainly Daniel would have enough sense to not leave with someone he did not know (especially since he was not drinking, as he did not have his I.D. and had such a rough time before). Leaving with Jonas would have been perfectly normal for him. Jonas DID ask Daniel if he had his cell phone so that he could call Jonas if he strikes out. Maybe Daniel called Jonas to come pick him up. Bree said that Jonas had been calling Daniel and highway patrol - had he really been calling? Jonas went into the bar to ask about him - did he really ask? Bree said that Jonas was up really late the night Daniel disappeared. This theory may explain why the white van was in front of Jonas's car, as well.