0127 "Miss Me?" (OpAphid) [02/04/07]

imogene2004 · Post by **imogene2004** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:07 am

Just my wild imagination maybe, but this could be a clone of Daniel.

SharpI · Post by **SharpI** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:14 am

immortal1 wrote:IMO this is another vid that makes the Order look inept.

Say your the Order and you capture Daniel and want him to make a vid to convince Bree to do the ceremony do you really think your going to accomplish this with a video that is so opposite of Daniel's demeanor? Do they really expect Bree to see this vid and decide to do the Ceremony?

The point of the video is that Op seems to have demolished Daniel completely. Yes, I think that would make Bree think seriously about giving in, if the alternative is to go through life watching every friend you make get killed or broken. I don't agree that this video makes the Order appear inept - quite the opposite, for once.

immortal1 wrote:Wouldn't it have made more sense if you didn't know if Daniel was under any duress or not? He could have said he was approached and asked to meet with Bree's mom where she explained everything including that it was her father that was the bad guy. We then wouldn't be sure exactly where Daniel was coming from.

I don't follow - how do you get Daniel to make such a video? "Relax, Daniel, don't appear nervous or we will kill you"?

TheMightyZan · Post by **TheMightyZan** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:16 am

Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I didn't want to go through 16 pages and see...it's late.
Umm, anywho, is it just me or does Daniel's shirt have eyes on it?
You can see them in the leaned back shots.
Just thought it was weird.

Starryeyedgirl09 · Post by **Starryeyedgirl09** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:18 am

BTW, this vid is now back up on YT

watermelonhead · Post by **watermelonhead** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:20 am

WTF!?!?!?!!

breewithcrackers · Post by **breewithcrackers** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:24 am

it seems possible that daniel could have intentionally altered his normal way of speaking so that Bree would know something was up--even if they were forcing him to say those things...

watermelonhead · Post by **watermelonhead** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:24 am

is daniel dead and sending a transmission from heaven?

kreepercamikaze · Post by **kreepercamikaze** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:25 am

Ok, hi, this is officially my 2nd post, hooray for lurking, haha.

I have a question, I see that Daniel mentions Cassie. This both confuses & excites me. As I understand it, and please please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't 'cassieiswatching' have no affliation with lg15 in the begining? Isn't the same also true for Op?

I've watched all the Op videos and they mention Cassie quite a bit and now that Op has officially joined forces with LG15 I can't help but to get the feeling that Cassie will become a pivotal if not key part of this entire thing.

I'm also a bit curious, does anyone know who the girl is in the Op Cassie video's? I've searched the LGPedia and it didn't say (or maybe I just didn't see it, haha) Is it Cassie, some random person or Op herself.

Eh, please forgive me for rambling, I'm a bit confused with this turn of events and just trying to put things together.

watermelonhead · Post by **watermelonhead** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:26 am

why is he suddenly talking like a white rapper

essie · Post by **essie** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:27 am

imogene2004 wrote:Just my wild imagination maybe, but this could be a clone of Daniel.

hey it's possible!

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:28 am

TheMightyZan wrote:Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I didn't want to go through 16 pages and see...it's late.
Umm, anywho, is it just me or does Daniel's shirt have eyes on it?
You can see them in the leaned back shots.
Just thought it was weird.

Yes, he does. It's the same shirt he wore in Fleeing the Watcher. Weird.

trainer101 · Post by **trainer101** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:31 am

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:
TheMightyZan wrote:Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I didn't want to go through 16 pages and see...it's late.
Umm, anywho, is it just me or does Daniel's shirt have eyes on it?
You can see them in the leaned back shots.
Just thought it was weird.
Yes, he does. It's the same shirt he wore in Fleeing the Watcher. Weird.

That shirt has sprung up a whole new discussion HERE

turkeyfeather · Post by **turkeyfeather** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:31 am

Over in the Op section, Beautiful Nightmare said that it remindes her of that Scooby Doo movie where they go to the island and all the kids bodies are taken over by monsters. I TOTALLY see that. What do ya think? Go BN for a new idea!

EternalGoddess · Post by **EternalGoddess** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:34 am

Jeez, I didn't expect them to do this. Hey Bree, it's Danny B? It's either he's being told what to say, the creators have forgotten how Danial speaks, Danial was evil from the start, or He's an idiot and has joined the order. I'm betting on the first choice.

SharpI · Post by **SharpI** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:34 am

Here's a concept: I think maybe that at the time Daniel was filmed for this video, he didn't know he was being held by the Order. I think he thought he was talking to the police or other authority, and trying to explain to them about the Order, ceremony, Cassie etc. He was probably high as a kite from drugs that Cowboy gave him. That's how they got him talking so freely for parts of the video.

But Daniel might have suspected that something wasn't right, especially if the "police" or whoever got more obvious in trying to get him to say certain things, such as the greeting to Bree. And so, as people have noted, he's "not himself" in these segments.

When I watched the video the first time, I came away thinking "ZOMG he's totally brainwashed." The second time, however, I paid more attention to the cuts and the sound, and came away thinking that it's all a clever edit job and Daniel isn't brainwashed at all. The cuts create meaning by juxtaposing possibly unrelated sentences (example: "your dad" and "he meant for that to happen.") I don't think it's a coincidence that some of his more WTF statements are also ones where the sound is attenuated so much you can hardly tell who's speaking, ahem.