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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:49 am
by bellamax
Luv2Luvem wrote:
ravensgrace wrote:
(Trivia: anyone know how rare it is to birth naturally after having a c-section?)
Hmm, I always heard that it's never done...shows what I know. :)

i've read and have seen on tv shows that it depends on the type of c-section and the reason for the c-section. i dunno.. not positive about it, just figured i'd throw it out there.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:52 am
by randomtrickpony
ravensgrace wrote:
Nos wrote:For the people against the 'baby' solve:

I've had two kids. Both were born with thick, full heads of hair. Not all birth is bloody. Mine we're both emergency c-sections, but I watched an AWFUL lot of birthing videos, and yes, even attended the birth of a friends child, so I've seen it in person. That is, in fact, a crowning baby.
Agree 100%, again, Nos. You're on a roll! ;)

My wife has birthed 4 children, 3 naturally, 1 c-section. I saw this first-hand only a year ago when our baby girl, Autumn, was born. 8)

(Trivia: anyone know how rare it is to birth naturally after having a c-section?)
Exceedingly difficult to do so. My best friend had a C-section on her first (complications). Then her second (complications as well). Being female and of child-bearing age myself...I researched it back then. After a first C-section, if you exercise quite a bit, you may be able to have a natural birth, but it is extremely risky. After a second C-section, normally the muscle is too scarred for natural pushing, and natural birth is not an option. Normally women who get C-sections can only have three more babies due to scarring before it makes it too difficult to do another such operation (unless you have a really good doctor)

And I was born with a complete head of black hair, my mom has pictures to prove it. It all fell out when I was three days old, and I grew in the start of the blond stuff you see on my head today.

Ya...I'm a blond. I have many blond moments...sue me.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:56 am
by rachelalexis
randomtrickpony wrote: And I was born with a complete head of black hair, my mom has pictures to prove it. It all fell out when I was three days old, and I grew in the start of the blond stuff you see on my head today.

Ya...I'm a blond. I have many blond moments...sue me.
Same thing happened with my sister. Except she was born with red hair. Apparently it took two years before she had a decent amount of hair (yeah, she was a baldie for a while there.) And yes, she is a blonde. I would say it's blondes that are wierd, but I'm blonde and came out smooth as a cue ball.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:07 am
by randomtrickpony
To COMPLETELY put the whole hair thing to rest...here you go: (no pictures, I promise)

http://www.babycenter.com/refcap/baby/b ... bs/85.html


http://www.babycenter.com/refcap/178.html#2 - click on the hair link

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:15 am
by ravensgrace
Sfonzarelli wrote:
bubbajay424 wrote:
Sfonzarelli wrote:
S is for Summer wrote:Middle left:
A picture of Jorge Cardinal Medina-Estevez. (Look it up on Wikipedia) Someone said the name of the book he's holding, but I forget.

Couldn't that just be a random pic of an "evil priest"?
Possibly. That'd be lame, though.
Hm.. not only did she blur his face, which would have been enough, but she also black boxed his eyes and mouth. See no evil, hear no evil?

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:15 am
by ëleison
ot:
its called a VBAC (vag birth after ces) and its become a lot more common. "By 1997, the incidence of VBAC rose steadily to 27.4%. Despite this dramatic increase in VBACs, the total US cesarean delivery rate rose to only 20.8%"

from JAMA http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/287/20/2627
but you have to have a log in to see the whole thing. grr

only thing ive been able to add all day because of work, so very bummed out.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:17 am
by Luv2Luvem
ëleison wrote:ot:
its called a VBAC (vag birth after ces) and its become a lot more common. "By 1997, the incidence of VBAC rose steadily to 27.4%. Despite this dramatic increase in VBACs, the total US cesarean delivery rate rose to only 20.8%"

from JAMA http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/287/20/2627
but you have to have a log in to see the whole thing. grr

only thing ive been able to add all day because of work, so very bummed out.
I appreciate it...I was waiting for that tidbit :D

EDIT: I's going to sleep, I'm sure when I get up there'll be 150 pages for me to catch up on :D Happy solving!

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:31 am
by toadlguy
ravensgrace wrote:
Sfonzarelli wrote:Middle left:
A picture of Jorge Cardinal Medina-Estevez. (Look it up on Wikipedia) Someone said the name of the book he's holding, but I forget.
Anyone find a link to this photo to match up?
http://www.traditio.com/comment/com0510.htm

near the bottom

picture:
http://www.traditio.com/comment/com0510b.jpg

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:32 am
by Nos
Since we're on a weird topic about c-sections...

I live in a very small town with a very small hosptial. The rules for VBAC are apparently that the hosptial preforming the birth must have a surgical team that can be assembled in less than 3 mintues, and access to blood for tranfusions. So, my hosptial doesn't qualify. Anyhow, I found out later that I could never have had a natural delivery anyway; I have a birth defect that comes from being a vanished twin, and have two uterii. Apparently I shouldn't have even been able to get pregnant at all. heh.

And yeah, the 'only three' rule applies here too. If I could have another, if would be last.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:42 am
by DeepBlueRug
I hate to bring this up, but I believe that the birthing photo could be eluding to a Rosemary's baby type scenerio. Now, I know I'm not the only person who has thought this, but I just put it together with the *person who will not be named*. I never realized that Roman Polanski directed Rosemary's baby.

Anyway, with a new Helter Skelter reference, I thought it was worth mentioning.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:33 am
by DontHaveAClue
Cassie IS Bree's intra-utero speaking baby. Hence the whispering voice.... Due date on the 12th ! it all makes sense ! :shock:

ok, i'm leaving this thread.

(running away) :arrow:

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:07 am
by ClueMeIn
Hello. I've been lurking in this forum for a while.

Just wanted to point out that the image of the cardinal could be a WHEN. Notice the date of Oct 2 in the article heading above the image of the cardinal.

http://www.traditio.com/comment/com0510.htm

Although "birth" also works as a WHEN in relation to the 12th.

Hope this helps.

ClueMeIn

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:40 am
by vertigo
Good god, that picture was not the first thing I wanted to see in the morning...........

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:51 am
by curriguy
Krishna, a God from Hinduism, is famously portrayed in paintings with blue skin.

of course, I have no idea why he'd be holding a golden chalice...but I'll see if there are any famous paintings with that happening

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:46 am
by Jengels2002
What is the latest and greatest theory regarding the picture???