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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:15 am
by JustAnotherLonelyGirl.
Actually, the video on Bree's account means nothing
The Creators wrote: In the upcoming weeks we will be migrating all YouTube videos to the LG15 account on YouTube. YouTube will no longer be "part of the Breeniverse" from a suspension of disbelief standpoint. Meaning, post times etc. are not relevant to the story. ALL plot relevance will be found on our website (who posts, when they post, etc.).
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:16 am
by autumneternal
Well, even though I expected Daniel to have been captured by the Order, I sure as hell didn't expect to see him side with them. That's one hell of a twist.
I'm going to jump on the bandwagon, though, with those of you who believe that, because the video was heavily edited with cuts, the 'conversation' wasn't originally 'composed' the way it appears in the video.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:57 am
by alpha incipiens
I'm sorry if this has been said before, but right after Daniel first mentions the ceremony, he tilts his head up and his eyes roll back in a way similar to the OpAphid Cassie videos (Everyone Hates Cassie, They Attack Cassie, etc)... or at least seemed that way to me. I don't really know what that implies, but I figured I'd at least mention it as I didn't see anything about it so far.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:41 am
by trainer101
alpha incipiens wrote:I'm sorry if this has been said before, but right after Daniel first mentions the ceremony, he tilts his head up and his eyes roll back in a way similar to the OpAphid Cassie videos (Everyone Hates Cassie, They Attack Cassie, etc)... or at least seemed that way to me. I don't really know what that implies, but I figured I'd at least mention it as I didn't see anything about it so far.
Good catch alpha! There's a discussion started about it
HERE
Welcome to the forum!
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:16 am
by mourningbelle
Lorien asked me to post the solution we got tonight from the braille in the vid. We've been working on it all day in the irc, and finally something came out of it. Anyway!
The braille was a set of seven anagrams, and each seperate word or phrase was linked to a number.
The number is 818-574-8347 and here's how we got it.
The anagram was:
HARD / AND LIFE / HEINZ / SQUARE / MILE / RIP STEPHEN / ASMODAI
So.
Hard= Hard Eight, a movie.
And Life = A song by Skid Row (teehee), called 18 and Life.
Heinz = The Ketchup, so 57.
Square = 4 Square, the children's game.
Mile = 8 mile, another movie.
RIP Stephen = St. Stephen, who died in 34.
Asmodai = A demon, the seven is because he is the demon of lust and lust is the seventh sin.
When you call the number, there's a short message from DB himself!
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:17 am
by kellylen
the message from DB is kinda creepy. but he sounds normal. and he whispers at the end. its not anyone else
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:18 am
by bethy
(oops, looks like mourningbelle beat me to his post by about a minute and a half...I'll leave it as is, though, since some people don't want all the details of the opAPHID puzzles here.)
FYI: There was another hidden phone number in this video. The peeps in the ARG spent all day figuring it out.
If you want the details of how and why... you can see here:
http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5979 (although it isn't quite complete from start to finish)
Basically, in the background behind Daniel were shots of braille. That translated from braille to scrambled letters, which were anagrams for certain phrases. The explanation linked above starts with explaining the phrases one they were "unscrambled".
Otherwise the number is: 818-574-8347
It's Daniel saying:
Hey Bree, this is Daniel. Leave a message if you want to, but I only call back girls that do ceremonies. [whispers] Bree, do the ceremony. [beep]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:21 am
by Absynth
WTF!?!?!?!?!
Op promised ME pizza and ice cream...
im mad.
on the other hand, good to see you on the right side D-Bone! and good luck, youll be tested, but if you pass, the order will welcome you, as it has some of us forum members
sorry, ive been drinking, but still...
go BEAST!!
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:24 am
by kreepercamikaze
bethy wrote:(oops, looks like mourningbelle beat me to his post by about a minute and a half...I'll leave it as is, though, since some people don't want all the details of the opAPHID puzzles here.)
FYI: There was another hidden phone number in this video. The peeps in the ARG spent all day figuring it out.
If you want the details of how and why... you can see here:
http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5979 (although it isn't quite complete from start to finish)
Basically, in the background behind Daniel were shots of braille. That translated from braille to scrambled letters, which were anagrams for certain phrases. The explanation linked above starts with explaining the phrases one they were "unscrambled".
Otherwise the number is: 818-574-8347
It's Daniel saying:
Hey this is Daniel. Leave a message if you want to, but I only call back girls that do ceremonies. [whispers] Bree, do the ceremony. [beep]
this is totally turning out to be another 'cassie' situation, with the voicemail jacking, the creepy edited videos were the person is clealy drugged and out of it.
aaachk, what is going on!
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:47 am
by onsweetavenue
haha "i only call girls back that do ceremonies"
now that is hilarious.
Wow, i'm sad I missed all the anagram solving madness, but great job solving the puzzles.
These last videos have been awesome. I am loving the storyline now.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:20 am
by Claramata
tigxpup wrote:epogen....maybe that makes sense of the hamster tag....maybe they gave him epogen at the bowling alley and then kept giving it too him to eventually brainwash him....or they gave him epogen and then just told him to say this or we kill you...but it all sounds so sinister...I think he was brainwashed.
Epogen isn't a mind-altering substance, so whatever they have him on, it's not Epogen.
I don't think he's been held long enough to be in as deep as he seems in this video, though. If what I can remember on brainwashing techniques is correct (and I haven't read up on them in a long time, so they might not be), it can sometimes take years to break someone and even then you're not going to get a complete character 180 like we just got from Daniel. I'll have to find more information on this stuff and post it here (or maybe on the wiki).
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:25 am
by essie
janejane26 wrote:So either:
1) Daniel was coerced to talk the way he did, or
2) Daniel talked that way on purpose to let Bree and Jonas know something was wrong.
I'm leaning more towards option #1, because how could Op not know how Daniel normally acts? I think she's too smart to let Daniel get a message in the video.
And I think she had Daniel talk like that on purpose as kind of a "Haha, I got Daniel and he says what I want. Suckers!"
Also! I don't really expect Cassie to make a sudden appearance again... in the video Daniel said "She'd want you to do the ceremony too.". He doesn't say "She WANTS you do to the ceremony too". He said "She would..." and I took that to mean "If she was still around she'd want you to the ceremony.
If Cassie does show up I hope it's not itscassie. :p I have a feeling the creators would read the boards enough to know that itscassie isn't as popular as cassieiswatching used to be.
CiW just plain freaked me out. I'm so afraid that I don't even want to watch itscassie. ANYWAY. I would lean more to #2 I mean DB would know that Bree would catch that he doesn't talk like that therefore she'd know that sometimes wrong.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:27 am
by bethy
I don't think he's been held long enough to be in as deep as he seems in this video, though.
It's been a full week...you can drug people up and get them to comply with you in that amount of time. I do a lot of work with combative dementia patients. It can be done with the rights meds in a week. If they can do it with Alzheimer's and dementia sufferers, they can do it with with somebody relatively sane like Daniel.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:34 am
by Claramata
bethy wrote:I don't think he's been held long enough to be in as deep as he seems in this video, though.
It's been a full week...you can drug people up and get them to comply with you in that amount of time. I do a lot of work with combative dementia patients. It can be done with the rights meds in a week. If they can do it with Alzheimer's and dementia sufferers, they can do it with with somebody relatively sane like Daniel.
Thanks for clarifying that.
Now we just gotta get Daniel off the pizza and ice cream.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:46 am
by bethy
Well, let me be more clear. My work is more administrative and educational than practical. I do a lot of training manuals/software for the elder care industry...and I'm not a trained caregiver. I interview and observe more than anything. One doctor told me I probably know more than he does on certain issues. That scared me.
It's only because I'm a knowledge sponge and real smartass.
I can tell you a few great methods for getting a sundowner's patient to cooperate with bathing....but I've never actually done it myself, only seen it done. If that makes any sense. It's because I observe and interview people, that's all.