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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:14 am
by janejane26
The video description is very interesting:
Transmission OTS - 0135 - 09. Subjects escaped. Attempting recovery. Target acquire@#dlks..dskjl sho$-#.atch..r$#@!......d....s.............. Faction: THE ORDER Status: PRIVATE VIDEO
Why does it trail off after "target aquired"?
I think other people have mentioned it before, but I think the description and the video were somehow uploaded/transmitted to The Order instantaneously. The person with the camera was trying to find the escaped "subjects". It says "target aquire", like the person with the camera was pretty sure s/he had Bree, then.... boom! They fall down, due to a gunshot wound, or whatever it was that hit them. If someone else from the Order had found the falled person and uploaded the video, there'd be no need do the random "@#dlks..dskjl sho$-#.atch..r$#@!......d....s.............." stuff.
Another thing to consider - if there were two separate people with cameras running after Bree, why did the video end with the person fell? If it's a private video within the Order, and if there were two people running around with cameras that had spotted Bree, wouldn't it make sense to end the video with footage from the camera of the person that *didn't* get hit? Because all this private video tells the Order is that the subjects escaped and that there's one camera person down.
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:39 am
by xentis
ok first manctor(sp?) please stop double/triple posting if you need to add something and no one said anything below you just edit you're post ..please
janejane26 about the whole random thing
"@#dlks..dskjl sho$-#.atch..r$#@!......d....s.............."
someone pointed out sho$-#.atch..r=shot watcher
now i think that may be right but some of those symbols are far away from the correct letter and i know of few ways other then holding shift to get those
so maybe it is some kind of code and the other symbols equal the name of who shot them , now your most likely gonna say its a prv video, well yes but does that mean they cant do this?
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:48 am
by mincartaugh
Quote:
Transmission OTS - 0135 - 09. Subjects escaped. Attempting recovery. Target acquire@#dlks..dskjl sho$-#.atch..r$#@!......d....s.............. Faction: THE ORDER Status: PRIVATE VIDEO
Why does it trail off after "target aquired"?
If the camera was
not feeding, the memory disk could have been damaged when the camera fell to the ground; or the time between the shot and the entrance of the black shoes could have been long enough for the card to be effected by the heat. Keep in mind that this is desert. The heat can easily hit the hundreds, and if the camera was in the full sun, the card could have hit close to 200F. More than enough to have the data start to go bad. The cuts in the video could be explained in part by this process, and the interference pattern in the transmission label could also be because of this.
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:53 am
by mincartaugh
Oh. The scenario I envision is person with camera is shot. Camera (and person) fall to the ground. Bree runs away. The Order finds body some time later; Order grabs camera and uploads to server from damaged camera to preserve the data.
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:01 am
by junetown
I have two theories (both probably discussed but i'd still like to share my thoughts), the first one probably being complete crap:
daniel steals an order camera, tries to catch up with bree in the desert as the "Ground view". The sky view that we see a few times (if its not just a view from a hill) could be the order scouting the area before landing from a helicopter. Daniel has this camera, notices fairly large shoe prints (remember these guys might not still have shoes) in which case he tries to carefully catch up with bree much faster, but is shot down when he reaches her, then we see an order dude retrieve the stolen camera and because my eye is sort of bad, bree runs from him sometime around that period but i can't say for sure.
second one is that its simply some guy from the order chasing around bree with a camera, someone shoots at someone, possibly misses but hits the camera or shocks the person into dropping it, the order guy simply gets back up and takes his camera back, but it also allows bree time to run. actually that might be crap, too.
frankly i don't like this video. to me, if they ran away, it was too soon. for me anyway.
why would brainwashed people run like that? with no shoes? how'd they know how to get out? i don't know, i just don't know. this sucks. personally i want them captured by the order at least until we've got some questions answered, i'm really tired of throwing more questions into the "WTF" bin.
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:21 am
by Huuney
voyboy wrote:I think you have all lost your minds.
lmao
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:23 am
by mincartaugh
JuneTown: read pages 17 and 18. Really.
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:38 am
by junetown
mincartaugh wrote:JuneTown: read pages 17 and 18. Really.
ahh. sorry, i gave up at like page 12 and couldn't take it anymore.
well i'm glad i'm not the only one with that theory. it makes sense but at the same time ... i don't know. i just don't like this video much at all.
they wouldn't have shown daniel, though, if he had no part in this escape.
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:39 am
by mincartaugh
junetown wrote:they wouldn't have shown daniel, though, if he had no part in this escape.
I heartily agree.
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:06 am
by Jo_16_2
c'mon, think racionally, if daniel was shot, bree would have stick to him, trust me.
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:13 am
by Anto687
mincartaugh wrote:I just had a brainstorm! What if that odd effect is caused by a lens hood? In strong sunlight a lens hood shades the glass lens so you don't pick up any reflections from the camera. In the bathroom the hood didn't shade because there wasn't enough light. When the shot rings out and the camera falls, the hood would have been knocked off the camera with the jolt. No shadows.
Yes, but you don't put a lens hood on a security camera, which the one in the bathroom (I assume TBH) is.
Good point though! peole here are so sharp!
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:38 am
by Jo_16_2
c'mon, daniel could have escaped but not with bree, diferent routes to the same point?
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:03 am
by losthoughts
ok so i made it to page 11 but i don't think i really have the time to read the remaining 8 or possibly 9 pages by the time i get there. so .. if anyone has already brought this up, i apologize [but a response would still be nice].
did anyone else see this?
Transmission OTS - 0135 - 09. Subjects escaped. Attempting recovery. Target acquire@#dlks..dskjl sho$-#.atch..r$#@!......d....s.............. Faction: THE ORDER Status: PRIVATE VIDEO
looks like shot watchers to me. as in the camera person got shot by a watcher.
that is all.
[edit: nevermind. read this page.]
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:32 am
by raigne
I thought about the odd shape of the camera image when the kids were kidnapped, and in the last video running through the desert.
I think it's a hidden camera in the sunglasses. You see the camera get set beside the driver in the Phase I video, which would make sense, you don't wear dark sunglasses when you're driving at night. Maybe tinted lenses to improve night vision, but not dark ones like we've seen.
And in the most recent video, you wouldn't chase someone through the desert with a camera either. Granted we've seen the camera go on chases with the kids, but I doubt a trained professional would do that. And at the end, were a sniper to aim between someone's eyes and shoot them, you might hit the camera.
Edit: About the lens hood theory: It's a good thought, but the camera had the shape in the Phase I video, which was at night.
jeez
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:52 am
by Lunafox
okay so I read 19 pages.
this is my opinion... not that it matters since everyone has one :p
the cammera is definately in the sunglass lenses... the visual would definately imply that. and the fact that we saw the reflection of someone holding a hand held camera in the "subjects aprehended" video I think is just an oversite by whom ever edited the video; since the creators probably don't really own a nifty sunglass cammera. why no blood spatter? i dont' know, but that doesn't sway me from this idea.
Next I do think Danny B
escaped from the "now you see him ...now you don't clip"
Who knows where jonas is. Although I'm pretty sure he couldn't escape since he didn't have proper use of his legs in the last video.
I'm betting it's either tachyon or brother who did the shooting and the person at the end is an Order-ite
The reason I believe it's either Tachyon or brother is because it's been implied in a few videos that they are represented by a helicopter and while the helicopter was not seen in this video it was seen in "subjects apprehended" which means tachy and/or brother saw what happend.
I'm sure they wouldnt' take it sitting down. Also Danny B's actions in the subjects aprehended video would imply that he knew something was going to happen (looking around, looking suspicious)
It has been suggested that they let themselves get caught on purpose, and I'm all for that theory. However, I'm not sure what the point was if they were just gonna shoot someone. If they did get caught on purpose I would only assume they'd try to stick it out as long as possible to get some information of some sort.