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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:45 am
by omegawoman
Is it just me, or does Daniel actually look older in this video?
Anyway, the creators did manage to answer even more of our questions, especially "What ever happened to the ceremony?" It seems like everything is slowly coming together.
I am interested to see if Bree and Jonas actually act on this one instead of skateboard lessons or fooseball.
Bree is supposed to be extremely smart. It's time we see that in action.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:46 am
by Kasdeja
I hope they post a video today!
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:48 am
by omegawoman
Kasdeja wrote:I hope they post a video today!
Me too! You would think with Daniel missing, Bree and Jonas would be hitting refresh every 5 seconds looking for Daniel to post a video to find his whereabouts.
My biggest fear is that it will be one from Jonas saying Bree saw the video and took off alone again saying something about a "Lucy" character as she ran out the door.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:51 am
by Kasdeja
I hope she didn't steal his car again...then all we'll get is Jonas and his indecisiveness, lol.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:54 am
by nobackspacebutton
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:00 am
by jehmz
silvermoon wrote:First time on for the weekend, and OMG!! I've got 19 pages to catch up on, and have to get the kids up and ready for school!
Daniel must be drugged up. I can't believe he would turn traiter for pizza and ice cream. And he'd never admit to loving those stupid puppets!
SAVE DANIEL!!
YES! Bree/Danny B Satanic Wedding Icon!! hahaha... BTW ladies, THIS is why you should always give it up... boys do crazy things when they don't get any... like join the Order.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:11 am
by imogene2004
omegawoman wrote:[Seems more like ecstasy to me. I am a former drug user so I can only give my 2 cents based on personal experience.
Ecstasy changes your whole perspective on things. For me, it made me feel like I loved everything around me, and that love was intense. Total euphoria. While I was on a "roll", my thought process changed, my way of talk changed, and I found myself "in love" with the thoughts and things I would normally not like at all.
That would explain why he talked like "what up it's Danny B" and calling Bree "baby" and saying he loved the puppets. I think this is the best explanation yet for his behavior......unless he is a bad guy, I hope he's not cuz that would really suck.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:35 am
by omegawoman
imogene2004 wrote:omegawoman wrote:[Seems more like ecstasy to me. I am a former drug user so I can only give my 2 cents based on personal experience.
Ecstasy changes your whole perspective on things. For me, it made me feel like I loved everything around me, and that love was intense. Total euphoria. While I was on a "roll", my thought process changed, my way of talk changed, and I found myself "in love" with the thoughts and things I would normally not like at all.
That would explain why he talked like "what up it's Danny B" and calling Bree "baby" and saying he loved the puppets. I think this is the best explanation yet for his behavior......unless he is a bad guy, I hope he's not cuz that would really suck.
Yeah, but his jaw wasn't twitching like mine did! LOL
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:37 am
by Osei
omegawoman wrote:onsweetavenue wrote:Something about the "spin art" reminded me of mushrooms and LSD. I dunno, he struck me as completely drugged out, and LSD and colors seem to go hand in hand.
The self-experiment showed Dr Hofmann "that LSD-25 behaved as a psychoactive substance with extraordinary properties and potency. There was to my knowledge no other known substance that evoked such profound psychic effects in such extremely low doses, that caused such dramatic changes in human consciousness and our experience of the inner and outer world." Dosage for LSD is measured in micrograms (millionths of a gram). Even these minute doses cause massive effects. LSD tends to lodge in the liver, spleen and kidneys. Only 0.1% of the dose enters the brain and even that remains for only 20 minutes. Thus its powerful effects can be caused by less than 100 nanograms (billionths of a gram) of the substance reaching the brain and these effects continue long after there is no substance left in the brain. LSD is known to cause flashbacks where the patient again experiences the effects of the drug, even many years later. LSD may also be tetragenic and thus the effect of minute doses can be felt even by future generations. At one point LSD was cited by some homœopaths as an example of how microdoses could cause dramatic and long lasting changes in the human body.
These extraordinary properties led to experiments in the use of LSD in psychotherapy, philosophy, and by government agencies looking for ways to manipulate the mind for brainwashing and as a tool for assassination.
And then theres Quinuclidinyl benzilate
Disturbances in level of consciousness
Misperceptions and difficulty in interpretation (delusions, hallucinations)
Poor judgment and insight (denial of illness)
Short attention span, distractibility, impaired memory (particularly recent)
Slurred speech, perseveration
Disorientation
Ataxia
Variability (quiet/restless
also used for mind control because of it's ability to erase memory and the ease of putting a new spin on things:).
Seems more like ecstasy to me. I am a former drug user so I can only give my 2 cents based on personal experience.
Ecstasy changes your whole perspective on things. For me, it made me feel like I loved everything around me, and that love was intense. Total euphoria. While I was on a "roll", my thought process changed, my way of talk changed, and I found myself "in love" with the thoughts and things I would normally not like at all. LSD or acid never did that for me, and I never even heard of BZ, which I think isn't used as a recreational drug, so I wouldn't know anyway.
Ok, I am also a former drug user... and I just had to give my two cents on this as well... lol
first of all.. sounds nothing like LSD or 'shrooms... they don't change the way you think at all.. sometimes you get a "body trip" but mostly it just affects your vision.
second of all.. doesn't sound like MDMA (ecstasy) either. MDMA is very "speedy" causing you to talk faster and your voice also kinda "jumps".. also, he would not have looked so calm and relaxed.
....unless of course, they gave him one of those pills that's floating around now-a-days that people claim is "x" but is really what we used to call a "dirty pill" because it barely contains any MDMA at all and is mostly a combination of other drugs such as heroin....
...ok... way too much talk of drugs... maybe should've just kept my mouth shut.. but really- I know what I'm talking about.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:44 am
by Kasdeja
No, I agree...so far three people admitting to have some knowledge of drugs have weighed in and it's helpful, IMO. Of course I'm one of the three...honestly, I don't think I've been on anything that would make me act like Daniel is...
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:47 am
by nobackspacebutton
Something I posted in response in the Plot Discussion threads...I thought this is interesting and its an alternative to the drugged-Daniel theory:
I think that was just put there to definately show that Daniel has been taken over by OpAphid. Also, if you think about the new hologram theory, maybe this is OpAphid, in the form of Daniel. Perhaps they took his photo, made a holographic image of a sort, OpAphid recorded this speach herself and then just changed the voice to Daniels. Perhaps Daniel is still "okay", but this whole video was generated somehow to look and sound like Daniel?
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:48 am
by omegawoman
nobackspacebutton wrote:Something I posted in response in the Plot Discussion threads...I thought this is interesting and its an alternative to the drugged-Daniel theory:
I think that was just put there to definately show that Daniel has been taken over by OpAphid. Also, if you think about the new hologram theory, maybe this is OpAphid, in the form of Daniel. Perhaps they took his photo, made a holographic image of a sort, OpAphid recorded this speach herself and then just changed the voice to Daniels. Perhaps Daniel is still "okay", but this whole video was generated somehow to look and sound like Daniel?
So if this is the case, maybe they don't even have Daniel after all.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:49 am
by Kasdeja
The probably wouldn't have ever needed him if they could do this. Which means...uh...if he isn't valuable, then he's dipsosable.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:52 am
by Osei
nobackspacebutton wrote:Something I posted in response in the Plot Discussion threads...I thought this is interesting and its an alternative to the drugged-Daniel theory:
I think that was just put there to definately show that Daniel has been taken over by OpAphid. Also, if you think about the new hologram theory, maybe this is OpAphid, in the form of Daniel. Perhaps they took his photo, made a holographic image of a sort, OpAphid recorded this speach herself and then just changed the voice to Daniels. Perhaps Daniel is still "okay", but this whole video was generated somehow to look and sound like Daniel?
I really like this theory, and this is actually what I was thinking all along, only I couldn't quite get it into words to post my thoughts.. lol.
And they still could have him.. just maybe tied up or locked up somewhere.. even if they could do this to begin with it doesn't make sense that they WOULD do it, without knowing that they (or someone) had Daniel and he couldn't just pop back up at "home" and say "Hey, what's all this about? They don't have me.. I'm right here!" you know?
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:54 am
by Kasdeja
That's why I said he's "disposable"...
