0190 - "Aiding and Abetting" [5/10/07]

EEVEE · Post by **EEVEE** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:06 pm

ruh roh

jill2009 · Post by **jill2009** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:08 pm

This whole thing could be some kind of a plan to convince the order Julia was kidnapped and then the Order will come and find them and it turns out Julia has actually not been "found" by BDJ and blah blah but that's never how the plot works out.

trainer101 · Post by **trainer101** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:14 pm

robtomorrow wrote:By the way shouldn't the title be "Aiding and Abetting".

"Aiding and Abiding" doesn't make any sense, well neither does the series, so I guess it doesn't matter.

I thought so too at first. It seems both phrases are used in legal circles.
"Aiding and Abetting" seems to mean that the person had some active role in the event whereas "Aiding and Abiding" means they had a passive role. In other words, they knew a crime was being committed and did nothing to stop it.

sack36 · Post by **sack36** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:14 pm

By the way shouldn't the title be "Aiding and Abetting".

"Aiding and Abiding" doesn't make any sense, well neither does the series, so I guess it doesn't matter.

I think they were going for a double entendre there, Rob. Aiding Bree is turning into abide with Bree.

LONGTIMELURKER · Post by **LONGTIMELURKER** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:16 pm

Jonas is so beautiful..that's all I gots to say on this one ...

Inigo · Post by **Inigo** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:17 pm

Jonas can't leave Bree and Daniel. They have no money, how can they keep paying motels and food?

And it's weird how in the last video he was all over Bree and now he's going on about his parents.

belu214 · Post by **belu214** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:21 pm

Inigo wrote:Jonas can't leave Bree and Daniel. They have no money, how can they keep paying motels and food?

And it's weird how in the last video he was all over Bree and now he's going on about his parents.

Yeah thats what i thought too. I mean of course his parents are more important to him but he shouldn't have covered up his feelings about whats happening and also tell her that he was going to help if he was planning on leaving. Or maybe he just said all that in this video becasue he just wants to rant but he isn't going to do all that...at least not yet. Thats why he put it on private so he can just rant and know that B and D won't see it.

krmurr87 · Post by **krmurr87** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:23 pm

I think the creators were just voicing our own concerns ...we've all been frustrated by this whole Julia thing well at least I have been!

did anyone else get the whole dane cook vibe?
"Screw the order...I just wanna skate!"

mindinflight · Post by **mindinflight** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:28 pm

Inigo wrote:Jonas can't leave Bree and Daniel. They have no money, how can they keep paying motels and food?

And it's weird how in the last video he was all over Bree and now he's going on about his parents.

Honestly. A complete 360 degree shift in perspectives.

Perhaps Jonas is a lot more introspective than we give him credit for.

kellylen · Post by **kellylen** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:37 pm

dude jackson can skate

thelogicpuzzler · Post by **thelogicpuzzler** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:46 pm

kellylen wrote:dude jackson can skate

Is that really him doing the skateboard tricks with the cam on the sidewalk? Cool.

je_sais_cequisetrame · Thu May 10, 2007 10:54 pm

Oh my. O_O

No, I don't think Jonas would leave... I think the creators are smart enough to know that many, many female fans would suddenly poof if that happened, lol.

And anyway... (this is a bad screencap but if you view the segment he's not hard to see)

What was with the guy in black washing the black car all throughout the skating montage?

Surely watchers aren't expected to wash their own cars, lol. Certainly they go to Delta Sonic or something. But it bothered me, so I took a screencap and figured I'd post it here for someone else to say it's unimportant. Just seems like every time they have a non-character fixed in a mostly unimportant scene solitary like that for a while, it tends to be significant.

Buuuut, after 3 pages, none of you geniuses seemed to notice, so maybe, just maybe, I'm paranoid. Makes me wonder though if someone really is watching these three still. Very rarely do they go to a location, pretty much broadcast exactly where it is, and NOT get caught or followed. O_o

betz28 · Post by **betz28** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:54 pm

i hope he doesn t leave but it looks to me like he may....

PinkRanger · Post by **PinkRanger** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:55 pm

Yay finally a private vid.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Thu May 10, 2007 11:04 pm

I'm a little disappointed in Jonas, to be honest. He commits the crime and then talks about walking off to leave the other two? What the hell?

If this isn't just him lamenting for a moment over how badly things are going and he really means that his heart isn't in this thing, maybe he shouldn't be doing it? (That really is meant as a question.) If he's more concerned about himself than the girl, he may not treat her right and he may not be thinking in terms of her best interest when he's around her. He had to know what he was getting into before he drove halfway across the United States. That's not a decision one should make unless they're willing to completely sacrifice themself.

I mean, really, with the Order, you've got to be willing to invest it all. If this wasn't where his heart was leading him, why would he put himself in their way after they'd let him go?

Like I say, though, I'm only a little disappointed in him. Everyone has the right to doubt and even despair for a couple of minutes. "Even heroes have the right to dream," as Five for Fighting told us. If he really does walk out on them all, though, then I'll be major disappointed in him. He's had a role in getting them all in this situation, whether he wants to say he was only "abiding" or not. And they need him. Period.

I wonder if it's wrong of me to think it would be lame for him to give all his attention - at this point in the game, at least - to two people who may not even be alive when there's a little kid who needs him right now and is right in front of him?

ETA: Still no Sarah?! Wtf.

Without her, no matter what LG15 does there's no hope. I miss Sarah. We need more Sarah!