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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:17 pm
by Spades
BrightSilence wrote:Well they are up in the mountains somewhere, pretty closed of from the rest of the world. They didn't want to be found so there's probably no life within a large radius. The order seem to be wanting her alive rather than dead, so she might be saver than. BUT I wonder what's worse being emotionally numbed by brainwashing and drug abuse by some cult (plus whatever else they are doing to her) or having a small chance to whatever happens to a pretty girl wandering in the woods.
Starvation?
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:48 pm
by JRae
I think it's pretty clear Bree left of her own will. The shower thing was to buy her time.
My theory is she wants more Hymn of One dope. No one manipulates and deceives people with less regard for their feelings like a jonesin' junky! The last video we saw directly from her, she was having some sort of mental breakdown- as someone commented, probably withdrawal. As the dopey part of the drugs wore off she remembered enough about Jonas' feelings to manipulate him.
Now the question is, why did she have sex with him? I don't think she had to do much to lull him so she could escape- it seemed like they'd let her out of the locked room (or had they? Maybe she was only allowed out with one of them?). If she could escape easily, then the sex part was for some other reason- probably impregnation? For the ceremony, or to make a trait positive baby?
Now that I think about it, it makes more sense that they (Resistance) were still keeping her locked up and under direct supervision, so the shower was one of her only opportunities to be alone (and escape).
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:11 pm
by sack36
I love the maybes speculation, so here's mine.
Maybe Bree is wafting in and out of lucidity. While she was (i'll use my personal favorite) having sex with Jonas, she was lucid. She leaves Jonas sleeping and heads into the bathroom to take a shower, but something about the shower snaps her back to nutcase, so she leaves the shower, gets dressed, and heads as fast as possible out the door before anyone else is awake.
Daniel wakes, hears the shower and sees through the door left ajar that Jonas is sleeping in Bree's bed. Fuming, he heads downstairs and starts banging things in the kitchen. Eventually he calms down to a ragged simmer.
Jonas wakes, hears the shower and assumes Bree is still in there. He heads downstairs looking to see who else is up and spots Daniel. They have their no-word altercation and Jonas heads upstairs to vlog to us. Since he's positive he has done nothing wrong (remember he thinks Bree is fully back) and because he knows Daniel is aware of the situation, he decides to break it to the rest of the world gently by making no comment but filming on Bree's bed.
When Jonas goes to knock on the bathroom door, Daniel hears him, and comes up to investigate. He is just in time to get knocked down by Jonas running from the bathroom. They don't have to talk and they don't have to like each other to know what has to be done next. They both scramble for clothes and head out the door.
They spend most of the day searching the surroundings, because the car is right where they left it so Bree is on foot. Finally, late Friday night they both come home, only to find Sarah sitting with a crazy Bree, feeding her some goldfish.
Bree sees Daniel and immediately jumps up and gives him a rather convincing lovers kiss, Sarah and Jonas--our two hotheads--looking on. All hell and half of purgatory breaks loose and that's why we haven't heard from them since friday!
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:30 pm
by Hannahbee
sack36 wrote:I love the maybes speculation, so here's mine.
Maybe Bree is wafting in and out of lucidity. While she was (i'll use my personal favorite) having sex with Jonas, she was lucid. She leaves Jonas sleeping and heads into the bathroom to take a shower, but something about the shower snaps her back to nutcase, so she leaves the shower, gets dressed, and heads as fast as possible out the door before anyone else is awake.
Daniel wakes, hears the shower and sees through the door left ajar that Jonas is sleeping in Bree's bed. Fuming, he heads downstairs and starts banging things in the kitchen. Eventually he calms down to a ragged simmer.
Jonas wakes, hears the shower and assumes Bree is still in there. He heads downstairs looking to see who else is up and spots Daniel. They have their no-word altercation and Jonas heads upstairs to vlog to us. Since he's positive he has done nothing wrong (remember he thinks Bree is fully back) and because he knows Daniel is aware of the situation, he decides to break it to the rest of the world gently by making no comment but filming on Bree's bed.
When Jonas goes to knock on the bathroom door, Daniel hears him, and comes up to investigate. He is just in time to get knocked down by Jonas running from the bathroom. They don't have to talk and they don't have to like each other to know what has to be done next. They both scramble for clothes and head out the door.
They spend most of the day searching the surroundings, because the car is right where they left it so Bree is on foot. Finally, late Friday night they both come home, only to find Sarah sitting with a crazy Bree, feeding her some goldfish.
Bree sees Daniel and immediately jumps up and gives him a rather convincing lovers kiss, Sarah and Jonas--our two hotheads--looking on. All hell and half of purgatory breaks loose and that's why we haven't heard from them since friday!
that's... remarkable, hilarious, and awesome.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:51 pm
by Spades
sack36 wrote:I love the maybes speculation, so here's mine.
Maybe Bree is wafting in and out of lucidity. While she was (i'll use my personal favorite) having sex with Jonas, she was lucid. She leaves Jonas sleeping and heads into the bathroom to take a shower, but something about the shower snaps her back to nutcase, so she leaves the shower, gets dressed, and heads as fast as possible out the door before anyone else is awake.
Daniel wakes, hears the shower and sees through the door left ajar that Jonas is sleeping in Bree's bed. Fuming, he heads downstairs and starts banging things in the kitchen. Eventually he calms down to a ragged simmer.
Jonas wakes, hears the shower and assumes Bree is still in there. He heads downstairs looking to see who else is up and spots Daniel. They have their no-word altercation and Jonas heads upstairs to vlog to us. Since he's positive he has done nothing wrong (remember he thinks Bree is fully back) and because he knows Daniel is aware of the situation, he decides to break it to the rest of the world gently by making no comment but filming on Bree's bed.
When Jonas goes to knock on the bathroom door, Daniel hears him, and comes up to investigate. He is just in time to get knocked down by Jonas running from the bathroom. They don't have to talk and they don't have to like each other to know what has to be done next. They both scramble for clothes and head out the door.
They spend most of the day searching the surroundings, because the car is right where they left it so Bree is on foot. Finally, late Friday night they both come home, only to find Sarah sitting with a crazy Bree, feeding her some goldfish.
Bree sees Daniel and immediately jumps up and gives him a rather convincing lovers kiss, Sarah and Jonas--our two hotheads--looking on. All hell and half of purgatory breaks loose and that's why we haven't heard from them since friday!
Jonas whips out the 9mm and DB his 12 gauge that Apo (who said DB should get a shotgun again?)told him to get. Sarah takes the goldfish and looks on like someone at a movie with popcorn, and Bree asks P. Monkey what's going on. Owen starts to answer, and she yells, "I'm not talking to you right now, remember?!"
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:43 am
by Aerrow
Yea well.. Anyone who thinks that she might have left through the window in the bathroom.. Good luck, the only window was above the shower and it was tiny, either way to high to climb up to it.. However right after leaving the bathroom, look to your right, omg, perfect there is an exit right there from the house.. So whether she ran away or was taken, it'd have been easy to do either since there is such a quick way to access the bathroom from the outside of the house or to leave to house from the bathroom..
Now for her leaving, if she left because she is still dedicated to HoO then that was just stupid.. She had Jonas in the palm of her hand, you might as well say he is the leader of the group, since he is financing everything any decisions made is pretty much up to him, his money, his place, his vehicle.. So through him she had them all where she wanted them from a HoO/Order perspective.. She could have just like set them up and led them somewhere to be captured..
There is also the chance that she had been reverted back to the real Bree, and if she actually did get it on with Jonas then maybe she just left to clear her head or something for a little while. I mean since there hasn't been a vid since that who knows if she has came back or been found, she might have just needed a walk and known that no one was going to let her do anything like that without supervision, if she wanted something like that she had to go out and get it even if it seemed like she was stabbing them in the back..
And I don't think she actually got in the shower because there is no water on the floor or anything, so whether she was captured or left, there was no showering, lol..
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:14 am
by Melaisis
If it was voluntary; it could be for a number of reasons. Perhaps she only came back to fulfill her secret 'desires' - which Jonas was more than happy to attend to, it appears. If this is so, then it is pretty obvious that her disappearance will leave a rift between Jonas and DB; especially if Daniel starts blaming Jonas for her disappearance and hating on him for the romance shared between Jonas and LG. Unless DB took her for some yet undiscovered reason - or the Order kidnapped her again. Either way, now that Jonas is more personally involved than this due to Bree (even moreso than Daniel, probably) he'll stop being the skeptic about the whole escapade and probably persue Bree over knowledge of his parents' whereabouts.
That's what I think, anyway.
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:16 am
by Jo_16_2
sack36 wrote:I love the maybes speculation, so here's mine.
Maybe Bree is wafting in and out of lucidity. While she was (i'll use my personal favorite) having sex with Jonas, she was lucid. She leaves Jonas sleeping and heads into the bathroom to take a shower, but something about the shower snaps her back to nutcase, so she leaves the shower, gets dressed, and heads as fast as possible out the door before anyone else is awake.
Daniel wakes, hears the shower and sees through the door left ajar that Jonas is sleeping in Bree's bed. Fuming, he heads downstairs and starts banging things in the kitchen. Eventually he calms down to a ragged simmer.
Jonas wakes, hears the shower and assumes Bree is still in there. He heads downstairs looking to see who else is up and spots Daniel. They have their no-word altercation and Jonas heads upstairs to vlog to us. Since he's positive he has done nothing wrong (remember he thinks Bree is fully back) and because he knows Daniel is aware of the situation, he decides to break it to the rest of the world gently by making no comment but filming on Bree's bed.
When Jonas goes to knock on the bathroom door, Daniel hears him, and comes up to investigate. He is just in time to get knocked down by Jonas running from the bathroom. They don't have to talk and they don't have to like each other to know what has to be done next. They both scramble for clothes and head out the door.
They spend most of the day searching the surroundings, because the car is right where they left it so Bree is on foot. Finally, late Friday night they both come home, only to find Sarah sitting with a crazy Bree, feeding her some goldfish.
Bree sees Daniel and immediately jumps up and gives him a rather convincing lovers kiss, Sarah and Jonas--our two hotheads--looking on. All hell and half of purgatory breaks loose and that's why we haven't heard from them since friday!
this is awesome
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:52 am
by Languorous Lass
Aerrow wrote: I don't think she actually got in the shower because there is no water on the floor or anything
Well, there was no coffee in Jonas's cup, either, but it doesn't seem as if we're supposed to infer that he wasn't really drinking coffee.
IOW, the lack of water on the floor was probably just more poor set dressing on the Creators' part.
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:44 am
by Killthesmiley
why would there be water on the floor, is the window is IN the shower?
That just makes noooooo sense, at all.
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:47 am
by rupaZer0
Languorous Lass wrote:Aerrow wrote: I don't think she actually got in the shower because there is no water on the floor or anything
Well, there was no coffee in Jonas's cup, either, but it doesn't seem as if we're supposed to infer that he wasn't really drinking coffee.
IOW, the lack of water on the floor was probably just more poor set dressing on the Creators' part.
Healf 'n' safety - can't have Jonas slipping and falling and breaking that sexy back of his.
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:53 am
by Languorous Lass
Killthesmiley wrote:why would there be water on the floor, is the window is IN the shower?
Because as Aerrow pointed out just a few messages ago, the window was far too small for anyone to fit through. Unless the Hymn of One has somehow managed to endow Bree with magical shrinking powers. And if they have, they'd also better have given her magical flying or climbing powers, because if she shrank enough to get out through the window, she would be way too small to get up to the window in the first place.
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:52 am
by Aerrow
Languorous Lass wrote:Killthesmiley wrote:why would there be water on the floor, is the window is IN the shower?
Because as Aerrow pointed out just a few messages ago, the window was far too small for anyone to fit through. Unless the Hymn of One has somehow managed to endow Bree with magical shrinking powers. And if they have, they'd also better have given her magical flying or climbing powers, because if she shrank enough to get out through the window, she would be way too small to get up to the window in the first place.
Not only to small, but to high.. lol, unless bree had like a step stool in the shower or pulled a spiderman, plus if it is like the one in my shower which it looks identical it doesn't even open..
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:53 am
by Aerrow
Languorous Lass wrote:Aerrow wrote: I don't think she actually got in the shower because there is no water on the floor or anything
Well, there was no coffee in Jonas's cup, either, but it doesn't seem as if we're supposed to infer that he wasn't really drinking coffee.
IOW, the lack of water on the floor was probably just more poor set dressing on the Creators' part.
Yea, good point.. I guess it would be hard to look for valid details like that with the creators leaving small things out..
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:59 am
by Languorous Lass
Aerrow wrote:Languorous Lass wrote:Killthesmiley wrote:why would there be water on the floor, is the window is IN the shower?
Because as Aerrow pointed out just a few messages ago, the window was far too small for anyone to fit through. Unless the Hymn of One has somehow managed to endow Bree with magical shrinking powers. And if they have, they'd also better have given her magical flying or climbing powers, because if she shrank enough to get out through the window, she would be way too small to get up to the window in the first place.
Not only to small, but to high.. lol, unless bree had like a step stool in the shower or pulled a spiderman
Yes, that's exactly what my sentence about "magical flying or climbing powers" said.