My Helper [9.28.06]

khjq · Post by **khjq** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:00 pm

Bree is being BRAIN-WASHED!!!!

spaciegirlreturn · Post by **spaciegirlreturn** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:01 pm

'8)' Edit: I just think "scared" was an interesting choice of words..don't get all crazy about it, geez.

Luv2Luvem · Post by **Luv2Luvem** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:01 pm

khjq wrote:Bree is being BRAIN-WASHED!!!!

Totally my thoughts as well.

tigerlilylynn · Post by **tigerlilylynn** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:07 pm

Even if her religion is harmless (which it's totally not...she was SCARED? about the ceremony),

I'm guessing a bar or bat mitzvah is TERRIFYING

sparrow · Post by **sparrow** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:08 pm

Mirage wrote:Ok, confused a little. In the "swimming" video Bree and Daniel have this convo:
Daniel: Who is this girl?
Bree: She was in your class
(music)
Bree: ... PE together.
Daniel: What'd she look like?
Bree: I don't remember.
Daniel: Why would you even bring it...?
Bree: I don't know what I'm... alright, just forget about it. I don't know, we used to just walk around the track together. 'Cause everybody was so mean to her. You know? Do you want to go?

But then in this video Bree says she used to come over (her house, I'm assuming, unless Bree has a play house in the woods). If this girl CAME OVER HER HOUSE, how could she not remember what she looked like? I remember what kids that I went to grade school with looked like, and that was ages ago.

I have a feeling that either A.) The creators have given us Cassie because we want Cassie (without paying a whole lot of attention to the swimming conversation) or B.) Bree was getting uncomfortable with the conversation she was having with Daniel and decided to try to get out of it.

Edit: The first impression I had of the Swimming video was that Cassie was mentioned to give some backstory, that maybe the creators didn't have a particular plot involved with her. I could, of course, be totally wrong.

If Bree isn't being on the level, then this certainly would fit with "Bree tells lies."

Cuddlebunni · Post by **Cuddlebunni** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:09 pm

oh my gosh.. just watched the video... im so excited she mentioned cassie.... and now soooo curious bout lucy... (is she the girl daniel filmed with bree in the stalker video?)

so i found it weird that she mentioned cassie was a "friend". In the swimming video, it seemed she was just some girl bree "kinda" remembered and walked around the track with her. I dont know, just puzzled me a little.

Oh and another thing- the reason i knew there a was a new video is cuz i was checkin my myspace and she put a bulletin up announcing it. THis is the first time shes done this I think? Not a clue, or anything significant, but I thought it was kinda cool. Got me over to watch it right away. Goodbye myspace hellooooo the world of lg15. Yipee.

mikael · Post by **mikael** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:13 pm

spaciegirl wrote:You know, the thing is this: someone (Daniel or anyone) needs to point out that the only people Bree has contact with are her fellow Thelemites(?). I am certain her little helper is one of them. That is not healthy. She's very isolated. Even if her religion is harmless (which it's totally not...she was SCARED? about the ceremony), you should have more friends than she does. This whole situation is shady. She needs Daniel to make sure she's ok.

Just because it scares her doesn't mean it's bad...a bar mitzvah or baptism can be terrifying...graduating from high school. Anything like that.
I don't think this video actually has a whole lot of new info in it...we just need to wait to see what happens next!

Nora Volkova · Post by **Nora Volkova** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:13 pm

tigerlilylynn wrote:
Even if her religion is harmless (which it's totally not...she was SCARED? about the ceremony),
I'm guessing a bar or bat mitzvah is TERRIFYING

Public speaking is consistently within the top three things that make Americans nervous/scared. Bree has been chosen to assist in a big deal, high level ceremony which her parents aren't even able to attend, and she has to phonetically memorize lines in a magical language. It's a completely legitimate interpretation that "scared" here refers to her not wanting to screw up or make a fool of herself.

justapix · Post by **justapix** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:14 pm

Broken Kid wrote:
Luv2Luvem wrote:Do you think that the fact that Bree's stories don't add up has anything to do with Cassie's Bree Tells Lies tags?
Personally, I think the creators are distancing themselves further from ciw by explaining Cassie, since they've been watching our theorizing all along. They're trying to make Cassie more real and less important (I think). That's why I'm guessing the issue with Cassie is more of a triangle thing. (Bree & Cassie = friends. Daniel & Cassie = relationship. Bree & Daniel = relationship.)

I don't think we should be tied into the whole religion thing w/ Cassie, since it's entirely based on our own theories (and some clues from ciw, which may or may not be canon).

I find this point very interesting, I because if you take the whole Cassie Is Watching aspect away from the LG15 world, it is very weird, that she would all of sudden mention Cassie again.

Because if Cassie has no relevance to the story. Why would she need to be brought back up.

But if you include the fact that we all have been going crazy over at the CiW forum, then it seem that the creators are talking directly to us, and letting CiW fans know that in fact Cassie is a Fanfic ARG, and not part of there world. (Which if true I think is truly amazing and should be commended)

I also believe this because their new revelation about Cassie seems to fly in the face of everything that we have been theorizing about how Cassie ties in with the LG15 world. And the pieces that we where just given do not seem to fit with our view of Cassie

~Justapix

PS to the creators, if this ceremony turns out to innocuous, and all that build up will be for naught, and u will end up alienating a lot of your views

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Edited for grammer.

Mirage · Post by **Mirage** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:16 pm

sparrow wrote:
Mirage wrote:Ok, confused a little. In the "swimming" video Bree and Daniel have this convo:
Daniel: Who is this girl?
Bree: She was in your class
(music)
Bree: ... PE together.
Daniel: What'd she look like?
Bree: I don't remember.
Daniel: Why would you even bring it...?
Bree: I don't know what I'm... alright, just forget about it. I don't know, we used to just walk around the track together. 'Cause everybody was so mean to her. You know? Do you want to go?

But then in this video Bree says she used to come over (her house, I'm assuming, unless Bree has a play house in the woods). If this girl CAME OVER HER HOUSE, how could she not remember what she looked like? I remember what kids that I went to grade school with looked like, and that was ages ago.

I have a feeling that either A.) The creators have given us Cassie because we want Cassie (without paying a whole lot of attention to the swimming conversation) or B.) Bree was getting uncomfortable with the conversation she was having with Daniel and decided to try to get out of it.

Personally, I'd go with your A guess and not your B, only because Bree brought up the Cassie convo in the first place (I'm basing it on the transcripts stickied on this thread)...so if she got uncomfortable with the way the conversation was headed, common sense would tell her not to bring it up in the first place!

But now your A guess, that's exactly what I was thinking! We know that the whole LG15 thing is supposed to be (Bree?

) interactive, that we can influence the storyline. The Creators have distanced themselves from CiW, but that whole ARG has taken off to become very popular. Perhaps this is The Creators doing exactly what you said--giving us what we want, without the whole CiW vid creepiness.

Edited for spelling and whatnot, for I'm typing and drinking, a dangerous (and amusing!) combination.

Luv2Luvem · Post by **Luv2Luvem** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:16 pm

sparrow wrote:
Mirage wrote:Ok, confused a little. In the "swimming" video Bree and Daniel have this convo:
Daniel: Who is this girl?
Bree: She was in your class
(music)
Bree: ... PE together.
Daniel: What'd she look like?
Bree: I don't remember.
Daniel: Why would you even bring it...?
Bree: I don't know what I'm... alright, just forget about it. I don't know, we used to just walk around the track together. 'Cause everybody was so mean to her. You know? Do you want to go?

But then in this video Bree says she used to come over (her house, I'm assuming, unless Bree has a play house in the woods). If this girl CAME OVER HER HOUSE, how could she not remember what she looked like? I remember what kids that I went to grade school with looked like, and that was ages ago.

I have a feeling that either A.) The creators have given us Cassie because we want Cassie (without paying a whole lot of attention to the swimming conversation) or B.) Bree was getting uncomfortable with the conversation she was having with Daniel and decided to try to get out of it.

Edit: The first impression I had of the Swimming video was that Cassie was mentioned to give some backstory, that maybe the creators didn't have a particular plot involved with her. I could, of course, be totally wrong.

If Bree isn't being on the level, then this certainly would fit with "Bree tells lies."

I think that option B completely makes sense. When Bree says that she doesn't remember what Cassie looked like it just seemed hasty to me like she wanted to change the subject.

toadlguy · Post by **toadlguy** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:17 pm

Actually - this completely fits with a theory I just posted (before the video was up):

http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewt ... ght=#15885

Also the admin's said, when talking about the previous video, that the house has nothing top do with the interactive part of the story. At this point CiW is the only interactive part. Maybe they didn't originally have anything to do with CiW - but took it over?

Luv2Luvem · Post by **Luv2Luvem** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:18 pm

hehe Mirage....we are on total different ends of the spectrum on that one.

tigerlilylynn · Post by **tigerlilylynn** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:20 pm

I also believe this because this new revelation about Cassie seems to fly in the face of everything that we have been theorizing about how Cassie ties in with the LG15 world. And the pieces that we where give do not seem to fit

PS to the creators, if this ceremony turns out to innocuous all that build up will be for naught, and u will end up alienating a lot of your views

I dunno. There are a good number of us who think/thought that Cassie was Christian. The "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" bit adds well to that.

I like the idea of the occult not being teh ebil!!11! since that's played out. If they tout this as a great new artform they better not just rehash the same tired story in a new medium.

Mirage · Post by **Mirage** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:20 pm

Luv2Luvem wrote:hehe Mirage....we are on total different ends of the spectrum on that one.

Hee that's good though, right? I mean, as long as we dont have a bet on it or anything...(because then YOU'D LOSE! Just kidding!

)

But in all seriousness, it's good to have as many different opinions as possible. You know, expand your horizons and all of that.