0169 "Hug It Out" 4/09/07

Huuney · Post by **Huuney** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:55 am

u sure ur not thinking when he was talkin about his dads sister alex

krmurr87 · Post by **krmurr87** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:56 am

kiyoshi wrote:
krmurr87 wrote:meridian line reminds me of the longitude vid from way back when
Yeah, that definitely rings a bell.
Obviously since it's the same religion.
But how would geography and religion go together?
o.O

And I'm glad that they talked things out.
This puts the whole Alex conflict to rest at least.

i'm still going with the religion is a front sooo maybe the meridian line is like their head quarters...who knows

TOSG · Post by **TOSG** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:58 am

Really good video. Jackson is always a solid actor, and the juxtaposition of Jonas' monologue with the shots of him and Alex on the beach was a very nice touch.

I'm not sure that I believe that Alex's involvment with the Order is as limited as she claims, though. That would be pretty convenient...

kiyoshi · Post by **kiyoshi** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:00 am

Onewen wrote:Just a few points:

Alex's mom and Bree's mom were the SAME religion...

I hope they find his parents...that would be a great vid! Reunion vid FTW.

Since The Order can see this vid, are we not worried that Alex just outted herself as a double agent? She could've played that for a little while...

Overall: great vid...and I am ever so thankful I stayed up!

That card should be completely thrown out (about her being a double agent) UNLESS the Order told her to come to Jonas' side temporarily so they can be tricked. But I honestly think that it'll be ok.

And krmurr87, those were my thoughts exactly. I wish I knew the details behind it though. T_T

krmurr87 · Post by **krmurr87** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:00 am

TOSG wrote:Really good video. Jackson is always a solid actor, and the juxtaposition of Jonas' monologue with the shots of him and Alex on the beach was a very nice touch.

I'm not sure that I believe that Alex's involvment with the Order is as limited as she claims, though. That would be pretty convenient...

right...for instance, they did all these great things for her but what did she have to do for them in return (before of course handing over her nephew and friends)

Edit: wahoo post 600

krmurr87 · Post by **krmurr87** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:06 am

oh god i'm so mad no one's here to talk about this right now

kiyoshi · Post by **kiyoshi** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:11 am

It's all because of spring break/easter.
In a couple of hours, they'll all be coming back.

And congratulations on the 600+ post count.
xD

krmurr87 · Post by **krmurr87** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:14 am

kiyoshi wrote:It's all because of spring break/easter.
In a couple of hours, they'll all be coming back.

And congratulations on the 600+ post count.
xD

lol thanks, it's also 6am here and I know it's like 3am on the west coast so i'm pretty sure any normal person would be asleep right about now

Wisi Girl · Post by **Wisi Girl** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:59 am

I believe the "meridian lines" referrence was simply a nod to the theme of longitude and geography in the past videos. We have also seen this theme in OpAhpid videos. I don't think it is much to look into at this point. That area was exhausted a long time ago. Unless the creators want us to take a second look into the subject matter?

I found this video refreshingly satisfying! While watching the video, I realized how long it has been since Jonas revealed anything from his past. He really has just been an observer of Bree and Daniel recently. He has simply reacted to the current situation in each video. The last time we saw him even touch on his own life was when Daniel was making dinner for Bree, right? He was in the car, talking about his days of alcoholism....Erm, it is really late here. My memory may be on the fritz. Please correct me.

Some of you are a bit confused about the mention of a sister. He didn't say he had a sister at all. He said that Alex was his half-sister. His mom and dad divorced and his dad married a much younger, rich woman who was apart of this religion and had a daughter who was "fruity"...He he! I haven't heard that particular description in a long time! Anyways, it brings so much more depth to both Jonas and Alex with this clarification of their past. When he talked about everything the Order did to help Alex, I didn't just wonder what she had to do in return. I also was reminded of that journal they found with all the newspaper clippings. How would she explain that? Do you think the creators will remember to include this later?

It seems right that the person to actually go in and work things out is the nephew and not the two angry strangers. It was a very natural move by the creators. I just don't have any clue as to what will happen next! The only thing I can assume is that the Order is watching these videos, (since they are public,) and all four are toast!

P.S. If his step-mom died in "car accident" then how did his parents get lost at sea? Did his parents reunite afterwards? Or did they just remain friends and continued to see each other? His two stories seem a little disjointed. Hmmm....First we have Bree totally flipping around her story of how her parents meet and now this? Look, maybe the creators should review the LGPedia site in order to refresh on their own series. It seems like the are seriously contradicting themselves, right?

P.S.S. It is so late here and my brain is fried! Please excuse my spelling.

ladysolitary85 · Post by **ladysolitary85** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:04 am

Onewen wrote:
ladysolitary85 wrote:AHHH its killing me I need a transcript.

Btw, off subject for a second, have you heard of True Free Will on myspace? is it canon on here like Hymn of One is?
I am assuming it is fanfic (like HymnofOne myspace), but it is still kinda cool.

At least they respond

Wisi Girl · Post by **Wisi Girl** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:06 am

Wait, wait, wait! Ahhhhh!!! I cannot watch these videos at this time of the night, erm, morning? Okay, I am so wrong! Jonas' grandfather married a rich, young woman after a divorce and Alex is Jonas' dad's half-sister. Yeah. That is it. And now that clears up the whole lost at sea story! Sheesh! I am too exhausted to be embarrased! Have patience with me everybody!

ladysolitary85 · Post by **ladysolitary85** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:11 am

no worries Wisi Girl, sorry guys I'm fading in and out, still checking our True Free Will profile... I think its canon

Wisi Girl · Post by **Wisi Girl** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:22 am

Damn, I need Lurker right now! I am trying my best to sort this out....

So, his grandfather was not apart of the Order but was obviously familiar with it when marrying this rich woman? Oh, and it isn't Alex that is "fruity" but this woman his grandfather married...Or was his grandfather apart of it as well?

If this woman was involved, then why wasn't Alex more involved as well? The account which Jonas just gave makes less sense than the one we have all been assuming at this point which is: She is bad. If she has just been an innocent benefactor of the Order then what does that imply about her mother?

Was Jonas' dad, who I assume was partially raised by this woman, aware of this? Wasn't it confirmed that his parents were apart of the resistance? Lurker! Okay, okay...That essay-type document he found in cabin attic....So, this could be why his dad and her had a huge fight! He was fighting against what his step-mom was apart of! It would be nice to know two things: Was his grandfather apart of the religion and how old was his dad when his grandfather remarried? Both would make things much more clear.

With the little bit that we know, and the little bit of that I am able to comprehend at this time, this is what I am most curious about: Bree= has two fake parents who conditioned her for a ceremony, and clearly raised her in a strict environment which was heavily influenced by their religion. Alex= raised by a mother who was very much involved with the Order but didn't raise her daughter with such an influence? Jonas= had two real parents who fought against the Order but his dad had step-mom and possibly a father who was apart of it? Why is it that only Bree is affected by all of this? Is her case highly unique within this community? Perhaps she is more than just a girl who is a critical component of the ceremony....She may be a "chosen" individual. She must be very, very, very valuable. It seems like others her age are being raised with much less influence in comparison. I mean, Jonas didn't know a blessed thing until Bree came along! And Alex simply has been receiving a bit of help along the way? Hmmm....

AM · Post by AM » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:24 am

Alex is Jonas's aunt because she is his dad's half sister.

Now for the real question;

Spark between Daniel and Alex; real or not?

Will they hook up eventually? I do not trust Alex at all but I so want DB to be happy.

Was she just playing with him because the order told her to or was there a genuine attraction?

They have all sipped the poison koolaide so to speak at this point. In other words each one of them has been exposed to the Order's brainwashing techniques. So what now?

Wisi Girl · Post by **Wisi Girl** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:31 am

Well, those are my thoughts and questions! I am afraid to stick around much longer because I may act like a complete fool again! I am going to rest my brain and come back to this thread tomorrow night. Perhaps a new video will be waiting for me? The Order has to make a move soon! The videos have been publice forever!

Lurker: I look forward to your thoughts on this video. Some fantastic insight about the relationships between families and the Order involving Jonas' past! I want to know what you think of it all! And perhaps you could answer some of my questions, too? He he!

RepoZerO: I think that is your name....Well, you are my new friend and I would love to know what you think! You were the one who just said yesterday that Jonas couldn't approach Alex because of how painful it would be for him, right? Well, it seems like he didn't have a problem with it!