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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:10 pm
by Sfonzarelli
The Martyr's Mirror is an Anabaptist text. It describes the fate of Anabaptist martyrs. (The Anabaptists, this includes Mennonites and The Amish, were persecuted by the Catholic church, for believing in baptism at adolescence. They were sort of like Christian radicals at the time)

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:14 pm
by curriguy
Sfonzarelli wrote:The Martyr's Mirror is an Anabaptist text. It describes the fate of Anabaptist martyrs. (The Anabaptists, this includes Mennonites and The Amish, were persecuted by the Catholic church, for believing in baptism at adolescence. They were sort of like Christian radicals at the time)
ah, that explains things

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:21 am
by pupok
Thanks for finding out about Geleyn Cornelius.

I think this picture is supposed to correspond to WHY, so a religious killing seems appropriate. But is she killed for her religion as part of a ritual, or killed because someone doesn't agree with her religion?!

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:28 am
by NillaWafers
Did we ever find out what the painting was?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:59 am
by MaxZyrix
Ummm... sorry in advance for posting this here but I couldn't find any mention of it anywhere else in the forum and this is one HARD forum to follow as clues change and advance everyday. So, anyway, I found this: http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9260/4jb3.jpg

Has anyone decyphered it yet? Could someone please direct me to where's the discussion about this pic going on? ^_^

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:11 am
by curriguy
MaxZyrix wrote:I found this image. Has anyone decyphered it yet? Could someone please direct me to where's the discussion about this pic going on? ^_^
this entire thread deals with that image. you're in the wrong area.
http://lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1377
NillaWafers wrote:Did we ever find out what the painting was?
Nope. the painting is STILL a mystery.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:18 pm
by kimmiewku
just sifted through the entire 'religious' section of the National Gallery of Art. The chalice wasn't in there. :(
I'm gonna go to dinner, I'll look more later. Just wanted to post so noone wasted their time looking there.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:31 pm
by KC
curriguy wrote:so Cassie provided us with an upside down picture of Geleijn Cornelus's feet.

so who exactly IS Geleijn Cornelus? (also spelled Geleyn)

....

The dominant Catholic Church found these things wrong with their practices:
1. they didn't baptize their children
2. they didn't believe that Christ "had His flesh and blood from Mary"
3. they regarded themselves as the "flock and elect of god"

....

he was:
1. stripped naked
2. hung by his right thumb
3. weight attached to his left foot
4. burned under his arm with a candle
:x Blueeerghhh ...

Makes me soooo proud to be a Dutchman and being baptized
as Roman Catholic...NOT!

http://www.homecomers.org/mirror/spanis ... sition.htm

NObody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Image

KC

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:55 am
by MiniKirk
check cassieiswatching's youtube account. it gives a tiny url link, which directs to this image: http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2949/2nu1.jpg i dont know...i can barely make this stuffs out, but i wanted to get this out there. am i the first to notice? -=shrugs=- anyways this is my first post...i hope this was helpfull in solving things, maybe it gives you the layout for the poems? or maybe its a word search, or (please God no)another anagram...anyways, im tired, and sick at the moment so dont pay too much attention to my exited ramblings
-Kirk
edit: forgot to mention, the tinyurl thing is in morse code.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:26 am
by Kasdeja
curriguy wrote:
MaxZyrix wrote:I found this image. Has anyone decyphered it yet? Could someone please direct me to where's the discussion about this pic going on? ^_^
this entire thread deals with that image. you're in the wrong area.
http://lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1377
NillaWafers wrote:Did we ever find out what the painting was?
Nope. the painting is STILL a mystery.
I'm starting to get turned around...can someone post a link to the painting?

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:30 am
by xenocide
okay....this could be completely unrelated, but we're looking for a painting...
The new MsKelly333 video mentions that the song that played in the old vids was "Suicide Sonata" by "hochschild magritte"....

...There is an award winning author named Adam Hochschild [still living] and Rene Magritte is the name of a surrealist philosophical artist [primarily a painter] who lived from 1898 - 1967... I was unable to find any composers by the name of "hochschild magritte" or "magritte hochschild", or any compositions entitled "Suicide Sonata".

I know that as far as we know, both Ms. Kelly and CiW are "fanfic", but since anything pretty much goes, I figured it would be worth a shot to see if that applies here...after all...we're the ones creating this universe...and ruling out potential clues based on what forum they're posted in makes us more of a "house divided" than anything...

...or maybe I just need to get more sleep. haha

*edited because I can't type* :-P

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:31 am
by Kasdeja
The blue arms in the cup painting make me think of the Indian blue skinned gods...I'm looking, but man...if only I knew more than some Indian gods had blue skin, lol.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:44 am
by jetblack
Magritte certainly would fit the bill with his "This is not a pipe" echoing "This is not a game"...

But I can't seem to find any painting by him that has a hand holding a chalice in it.

The blue skin makes me think of Hindu gods too. However the chalice (or cup) kind of looks Western.

Perhaps the hand is gloved?

And perhaps it's a really obscure painting and we're not really supposed to find out which painting it is until the next drop?

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:46 am
by toadlguy
xenocide wrote:okay....this could be completely unrelated, but we're looking for a painting...
The new MsKelly333 video mentions that the song that played in the old vids was "Suicide Sonata" by "hochschild magritte"....
I think that the title Suicide Sonata came from a post in the forum joking about how bad it is. The french text "ceci n'est pas une pipe " is a painting by Magritte.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:48 am
by toadlguy
Or, just possibly, - jetblack - that's not the painting.