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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:54 pm
by bethy
laurenesque wrote:
bethy wrote:
laurenesque wrote:And what I'm saying is that saying those pamphlets were there because the people who really live there are doctors is moot, because no other shooting has been inside that actual house. It's been confirmed.

Where has this been confirmed?? Two of us have asked you several times now...HOW do you know that?
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.1 ... ygirl.html is where it is confirmed that the bedroom is in Mesh's apartment. Except for this recent video, that is the ONLY interior we've "seen" of the house. I just don't think the Creators would suddnely decide to pay off the family or ask them to leave so they can film a few minutes in the house. It would make more sense for them to go to the home of someone who is involved with the project so they have creative control, don't have to shell out money, can stay as long as they like, etc.

Ok, I am really done with this now.

[Edited to fix link]

Yes...we KNOW about the apartment already. We asked you for proof about the filiming inside the house...you said you knew for a FACT that no filming had been done there.

And I clearly told you that the user here calphilips visited that house AND spoke with the owner. He *IS* affiliated with the creators somehow, said so in the video.


It's really poor form to say something is fact, then to backpedal and say you"think" or "assume" based on some situation you clearly don't have full knowledge about.

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:56 pm
by Lurker
laurenesque wrote:And what I'm saying is that saying those pamphlets were there because the people who really live there are doctors is moot, because no other shooting has been inside that actual house. It's been confirmed. Every place we've seen that is inside has been in a Creator's house. For example, Lucy's apartment. I'm not saying that that isn't Bree's house in a fictional sense. I'm saying that the pamphlets were SUPPOSED to be there and aren't just coindidences because the people who physically live there are medical professionals.
Laurenesque, it's been confirmed for all the locations up to before this video. This video could easily have been filmed inside the actual house. The owner is acquainted with the Creators (the calphillips video), so it's certainly possible that he let them use his place. Also, you have to take into account the upstairs shot out the window. It's definitely the same neighborhood and the same houses that we're looking at through that window. Even the same curve in the road.

What's more, the pink plants right under that window on the front of the house are visible when Daniel points the camera out the window (look at the video at 1:33). I'd say it's 100% certain that this video was filmed in that house. That said, I do agree with you that they wouldn't have left the shot of the pamphlets in by accident. It was intentional that we see them, if only to have them serve as a red herring.

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:57 pm
by laurenesque
bethy wrote:
It's really poor form to say something is fact, then to backpedal and say you"think" or "assume" based on some situation you clearly don't have full knowledge about.


:roll: 'kay

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:59 pm
by laurenesque
Lurker wrote:
laurenesque wrote:And what I'm saying is that saying those pamphlets were there because the people who really live there are doctors is moot, because no other shooting has been inside that actual house. It's been confirmed. Every place we've seen that is inside has been in a Creator's house. For example, Lucy's apartment. I'm not saying that that isn't Bree's house in a fictional sense. I'm saying that the pamphlets were SUPPOSED to be there and aren't just coindidences because the people who physically live there are medical professionals.
Lauren, it's been confirmed for all the locations up to before this video. This video could easily have been filmed inside the actual house. The owner is acquainted with the Creators (the calphillips video), so it's certainly possible that he let them use his place. Also, you have to take into account the upstairs shot out the window. It's definitely the same neighborhood and the same houses that we're looking at through that window. Even the same curve in the road.

What's more, the pink plants right under that window on the front of the house are visible when Daniel points the camera out the window (look at the video at 1:33). I'd say it's 100% certain that this video was filmed in that house. That said, I do agree with you that they wouldn't have left the shot of the pamphlets in by accident. It was intentional that we see them, if only to have them serve as a red herring.
Not above being proven wrong if people can do it without sounding like they're attacking. I was not aware the people in the house knew the Creators-- only that an actual family lived there. Since we've never seen the inside of Bree's house except for her bedroom, I was skeptical.Thanks for not getting all up in arms about it like some people. :)

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:00 pm
by bethy
GO ahead and roll your eyes at me. You claimed something to be fact, then backpedaled to say you "thought" it couldn't happen. It's common knowledge that the owner of the house is somehow affiliated with the Creators. How exactly? we don't know...but they aren't just strangers that picked a random house to film.

If anyone should be rolling their eyes...it's me at you.

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:02 pm
by Cherie_Sotta
ok - here's a flip side to some things.

A lot of you are beyond *sure* that this image in the upstairs exterior window of Bree's house is absolutley nothing LonelyGirl15 related. The exterior of the home is different from the interior of the home - filmed at 2 separate locations up until now.

This house Daniel explores is definitely the interior of THE SAME house that's shown on the exterior of this video. When he enters the side gate, you can see through the window the same dining room table and chairs that he sees when he first turns on the camera when he's inside of the house. And as I mentioned earlier, the room that's supposedly Bree's (from the board's speculation) is actually the office Daniel enters in this particular video. This means that the crew and creators had rights to use the exterior AND interior of this house. Why else wouldn't Daniel go into Bree's room? Because it's not there! Given that Bree's house is the EPITOME of the story as of right now (Her Parents dissapeared from here, we all saw or heard of OpAphid's vids, the whole "go home", "don't go home" war between Daniel, Gemma, Bree and just about anyone else... makes the idea that there is a planted picture or image of some type in the said window very feesible. How could the creators possibly let something like that get by them - especially knowing that we pick everything apart? And then leave this mysterious image in the window and try to get away with pretending it wasn't there?? No way. Our creators are waaayy smarter than this. As a whole group, we can't even figure out this story. They're one step ahead of us. And with the fact that they used the inside and outside of this house for this vid tells me that the image in the window is probably not an accident at all.

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:02 pm
by laurenesque
bethy wrote:GO ahead and roll your eyes at me. You claimed something to be fact, then backpedaled to say you "thought" it couldn't happen. It's common knowledge that the owner of the house is somehow affiliated with the Creators. How exactly? we don't know...but they aren't just strangers that picked a random house to film.

If anyone should be rolling their eyes...it's me at you.
The Internet is serious business!

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:04 pm
by bethy
laurenesque wrote:I was not aware the people in the house knew the Creators-- only that an actual family lived there. Since we've never seen the inside of Bree's house except for her bedroom, I was skeptical.
:lol:
laurenesque wrote:The inside filming is NOT, I repeat IS NOT done inside that house. That house is only used for outside shots ONLY.

You stated it as fact...not as a guess or skepticism. That was the problem. When we asked for your source...you blew all credibility. It's really, relly STUPID to state something as fact when you know it isn't.

You know what tey say about assumptions...it always start with an ass.

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:05 pm
by laurenesque
bethy wrote:
laurenesque wrote:I was not aware the people in the house knew the Creators-- only that an actual family lived there. Since we've never seen the inside of Bree's house except for her bedroom, I was skeptical.




:lol:

laurenesque wrote:The inside filming is NOT, I repeat IS NOT done inside that house. That house is only used for outside shots ONLY.

You stated it as fact...not as a guess or skepticism. That was the problem. When we asked for your source...you blew all credibility. It's really, relly STUPID to state something as fact when you know it isn't.

You know what tey say about assumptions...it always start with an ass.
OMG, I was wrong. Get over it already.

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:06 pm
by aideen
Ok, look, she's admitted she made a slight mistake, can we stop harassing her now, going on about her being stupid and whatever? I think it's just immature to do that when she's been pretty mature in accepting it.

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:07 pm
by bethy
It's generally acceptable to apologize...but hey... :roll:

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:07 pm
by aideen
OMG, I was wrong. Get over it already.
Exactly

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:07 pm
by Lurker
laurenesque wrote:Not above being proven wrong if people can do it without sounding like they're attacking. I was not aware the people in the house knew the Creators-- only that an actual family lived there. Since we've never seen the inside of Bree's house except for her bedroom, I was skeptical.Thanks for not getting all up in arms about it like some people. :)
You're welcome. I felt pretty sure it was the same house, but once I saw the fight going on I went back to make sure. I just wanted to stop the fighting.
Cherie Sotta wrote:How could the creators possibly let something like that get by them - especially knowing that we pick everything apart? And then leave this mysterious image in the window and try to get away with pretending it wasn't there?? No way. Our creators are waaayy smarter than this. As a whole group, we can't even figure out this story. They're one step ahead of us. And with the fact that they used the inside and outside of this house for this vid tells me that the image in the window is probably not an accident at all.
While the Creators are clever, they aren't above making huge mistakes. Like in Daniel's "Following The Helper" video, the computer's clock clearly said "Thursday, October 12" even though October 12 was already supposed to have passed in the storyline. Also, there's Gemma's comment that B&D had been on the run for less than three weeks when it had already been four full weeks. And then there's the whole debacle with "The Test" and "Your Decision" turning out to have been filmed before the forum ever got the chance to "decide" if B&D should go to Jonas'.

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:09 pm
by iamcool
maybe daniel has the power to shrink and grow his hair whenever he pleases...

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:11 pm
by laurenesque
iamcool wrote:maybe daniel has the power to shrink and grow his hair whenever he pleases...
I wish I could do that...