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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:49 am
by xenocide
Yeah, the "This is not an apple/This is not a pipe" thing kind of tipped me in that direction, too...not to mention the fact that his style really fits the bill for the kind of imagery I would expect to see coming from Cassie...
You're probably right...I've looked everywhere, it seems, and I can't find anything that even remotely resembles that picture....but I have some free time on my hands, and am REALLY interested in figuring it out...so it's not like I'm stopping any time soon. heh
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:51 am
by xenocide
Could be. but either way, I found it interesting. Maybe it's simply a reminder that "This is not a game"....but that seems too easy.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:51 am
by Kasdeja
I've seen about a bazillion Indian paintings, now...in my search. Several have the same style as the chalice picture...I'm not sure how the chalice looks western, especially now...still looking...though I'm running out of work time to do it.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:58 am
by Kasdeja
Whoa...in my search for the picture I ran across this. Nothing, something, who knows...It mentions revelations, though...
Really Long Link(tm)
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:04 am
by jetblack
I think the chalice looks a bit too much like an average Christian communion chalice to be of Hindu origin.
However I'm sure it has been adopted by Indian painters and is quite requent in paintings from the last couple of centuries.
But in the pics I've seen online (Shiva drinking poison or amrita cups) the cups have had another cut to them.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:22 am
by Kasdeja
It's really the only lead we have...since I know of no Christian paintings with blue people.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:41 pm
by Kasdeja
I'm beginning to think it represents the quest for the grail...as in fruitless. sigh.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:21 pm
by Shimua
If only Dr. Robert Langdon were a fan of Cassieiswatchin!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:37 pm
by daykar
Shimua wrote:If only Dr. Robert Langdon were a fan of Cassieiswatchin!!!
that's what a friend of mine said when i told her about this
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:05 pm
by atomikbr
Kasdeja wrote:It's really the only lead we have...since I know of no Christian paintings with blue people.
They might be blue just because the picture has been edited (i.e. yellow removed).
Imh, hands where left their original color (in the first, inverted picture), so when we inverted the whole image those hands got their color inverted.
If you check the original image, hands are the only "not inverted" piece of the image, and their color is skin-like.
edit: just added some line breaks
edit: and they look way much as baroque cherubs hands.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:17 pm
by kalli182
can anyone please post the original pic and the inverted pic of the blue hand chalice painting for me ?? the url's won't work for me..
edit: oh and the poem that goes with the painting?
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:44 pm
by girl
i hunted this down for myself earlier. You won't believe how much I had to weed through.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m288 ... 100106.jpg
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:00 am
by katz31
I was googling "painting of cherub holding chalice" and I found this:
The Paintings of Francisco de Herrera, The Elder
The child at the left, holding a chalice, is in rose. The other figures are in neutral tones. Swarthy cherubs with coral-colored cheeks fly about in a ...
Unfortunately I don't have access to the pages so that's all I could come up with but I'm going to keep trying.
I just thought it was interesting that the child on the left is in rose--the color in the picture before it was inverted.
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:52 am
by augustwhispers
Not sure how much help this will give anyone, but I think maybe if we identify what kind of chalice it exactly is we're looking for, it might do better with the search.
I found this site:
http://store.catholicmax.com/church-sup ... lices.html
It has a whole list (with pictures), of different types of chalices.
I looked through and found a few that were similar, but I wanted to see what everyone else had matched, also.
Hope this does some good!
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:28 am
by Kasdeja
Yeah, yesterday I found quite a few Catholic chalices...the color was throwing me off...