0100 "Bree Phone Home" [12/18/06]

H2Overdose · Post by **H2Overdose** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:26 pm

itscassie just got a vid up like 50 minutes ago.Its on YouTube. She's like making prank calls.

iamcool · Post by **iamcool** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:26 pm

arammat wrote:
iamcool wrote:
wintermute wrote:
Languorous Lass wrote:'mute, I understand why you might be getting frustrated. I'm a non-Op follower, though, and I think these new developments -- clues and phone messages -- are pretty cool. I'm glad there are Op-followers around who know immediately how to handle messges like these.
Oh, I'm frustrated with a lot more than OpA right now. To me, this video was nothing more than a great big "F*** You" to the CiW followers

'mute
i dont think the creators are stupid enuf to do that coz they know it would make a lot of the veterans leave, if u stick around for abit i'm sure u wont feel like that anymore
'mute's been around since the beginning of time

i know lol

avian_firefly · Post by **avian_firefly** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:28 pm

The Scientist wrote:She also talks about Jared Diamond in the Vid "Tolstoy Principle." I can't see any clues in that video, however.

I actually came across some Leo Tolstoy stuff while researching my judaism and Capital Punishment paper last week...(or maybe NAtive American religions? Most likely death penalty research though) I wonder if I actually wrote down what it said? ::goes to search::

arammat · Post by **arammat** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:35 pm

covedweller wrote:
wintermute wrote:
Languorous Lass wrote:'mute, I understand why you might be getting frustrated. I'm a non-Op follower, though, and I think these new developments -- clues and phone messages -- are pretty cool. I'm glad there are Op-followers around who know immediately how to handle messges like these.
Oh, I'm frustrated with a lot more than OpA right now. To me, this video was nothing more than a great big "F*** You" to the CiW followers

'mute

Um, you know who gave the biggest f**k YOU to all the CiW followers?

Cassie is Watching

blame whoever was behind that debacle we all got burned on, and not The Creators!

at least this is them trying to throw us a bone that makes sense in LG15 and now allows for something to be done with the Cassie character.

what on earth could they have done with her as it stood post-CiW? from what we knew, Cassie was a corpse and in Second Life.

now at least we know she's probably alive, and just a bit of a bitch.

Covedweller, you are 100% right on this. The fact that CiW died out has nothing to do with the Creators. The fact that they pulled Cassie back into the story and gave an explanation that pulled everything together and even made it a tangential part of the LG story is a good thing, from my viewpoint. And while I don't think they will probably use Cassie as an actual character in the story, we do know that she's most likely alive and out there somewhere. Which was more than we got from CiW, really.

avian_firefly · Post by **avian_firefly** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:39 pm

alysaface wrote:also.. it might just be me.. but.. bree's coloring in the video looked so DIFFERENT from the background behind her.. during the first half of the video it looked almost obvious to me that the library background was fake.. but idk that could just be me.. i'm just wondering if anyone else saw it by any chance.

I thought the same thing

Luv2Skydive · Post by **Luv2Skydive** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:41 pm

'mute's been around since the beginning of time

True, true....and we should respect our elders.

breeislonely · Post by **breeislonely** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:44 pm

i don't think anyone has posted this yet but i did a google search for simon and jared diamond and this was the first page that came up, i'm linking it cached so it's easy to see http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:2- ... =clnk&cd=1

INK Q&A: SIMON SINGH
In the author's own words, Simon Singh's Big Bang is "an explanation of the theory that explains the origin and evolution of the universe." In our INK Q&A, Singh reveals the last good book he read, his objection to astrology ("It is horribly sad that (despite five thousand years of scientific advance) there are still hundreds of millions of people who believe in astrology and other hippy dippy claptrap"), and whether he prefers Fahrenheit, Celsius, or Kelvin. Pick up Big Bang at 30% off the cover price.

INK Q&A: JARED DIAMOND
Jared Diamond, the acclaimed author of Guns, Germs, and Steel, is back with Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed, which analyzes why some societies crash while others thrive. In this INK Q&A, Diamond explains why he'd like to date his wife's (imaginary) identical twin sister, what makes his favorite pair of shoes better than the rest ("I bought the shoes in June of 1970, and they are still in great shape and I continue to wear them"), and his idea of absolute happiness. For a limited time, get Collapse at 30% off the publisher's price.

these two quotes are on this page, right next to each other in this exacto order, i think this MAY be what we were meant to find with that refernce

the book store is in portland, oregon so i don't think it has any meaning

CaptainAwesome · Post by **CaptainAwesome** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:44 pm

Okay. I watched the CASSIE IS WATCHING STUFF (up until the bs about ebay tarot cards controversy and the CREATORS debunking its canon... which i personally thought gave lonelygirl edge) but Who Is Frank!? Was there something later I missed?

Furthermore, this vlog is obviously their commentary, a parallel parable on the Cassie Is Watching videos... manson et al. I thought this was a very clever way of handling it, though I am annoyed it seemingly CONTRADICTS previous things Bree said about Cassie (swimming video... and the friendship thing, cassie getting freaked about brees religion). I think I preferred it when cassie was just some girl daniel had classes with. simple. put. done.

I am still confused what videos Bree can see and what she can't. Op? Tach? Why wasn't she more pissed about the Gemma thing? She cries whenever Daniel blows his nose, yet responds tepidly to her parents disappearing and gemma turning all anakin skywalker.

iamcool · Post by **iamcool** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:45 pm

frank is the person who cassie supposedly possessed and he later died

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:49 pm

arammat wrote:
Ashley wrote:Hmm... didn't Bree say once that she couldn't remember what Cassie looked like when Daniel asked her who she was talking about? But, she remembers these prank calls Cassie used to make from her house?

Strange.
It was Daniel who didn't remember Cassie. At some point in the conversation, Bree says "I don't know," but it's not really indicating that she doesn't know. It was said the way you say I don't know when you want to change the subject or deflect the question.

Actuallyyyyy...

Daniel: "What'd she look like?"
Bree: "I don't remember."
Daniel: "Why would you even bring it --"
Bree: "I don't know" etc.

Bree did say she didn't remember what the girl looked like. Curious that Bree would remember all these other details but not even what she looks like.

ericski wrote:i like the bree=cassie thing. maybe bree was chosen because of this.

That would be an interesting twist. Perhaps they want the Cassie personality to become dominant for whatever reason?

Luv2Skydive wrote:
avian_firefly wrote:did anyone else giggle when she mentioned Cassie? I thought I was going to fall out ofmy chair with the "I'm watching" line. I also thought Frank might be uncle Franklin until i remembered his name was Francis.
Creators: *crapping themselves because they forgot Frank's name was Francis and not Franklin*

It could be a mistake. Of course, if the Creators intend to leave it at CiW being a bunch of practical jokes on Cassie's part, she might have changed "Franklin" to "Francis" herself.

avian_firefly wrote:
alysaface wrote:also.. it might just be me.. but.. bree's coloring in the video looked so DIFFERENT from the background behind her.. during the first half of the video it looked almost obvious to me that the library background was fake.. but idk that could just be me.. i'm just wondering if anyone else saw it by any chance.
I thought the same thing

I don't see it, guys. Everything's being hit with strong lighting, but especially from the right side of the screen (you can really see it on Bree's face, the chair, and the book case behind her). Also, when the lighting on Bree gets dimmer, the lighting on the bookshelf gets dimmer.

Also, look at those books on the area that Bree's seen sitting on at one point. When she's sitting in front of them, her shadow is obstructing the light from hitting them on the bottoms/tops (whichever), but when she's not, the light hits them straight on. I think she was really there.

CaptainAwesome · Post by **CaptainAwesome** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:49 pm

iamcool wrote:frank is the person who cassie supposedly possessed and he later died

When did that happen? after manson in CiW? link?

can someone fill me in with the shenanigans of cassie post-manson/canon debunking?

iamcool · Post by **iamcool** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:50 pm

CaptainAwesome wrote:
iamcool wrote:frank is the person who cassie supposedly possessed and he later died
When did that happen? after manson in CiW? link?

can someone fill me in with the shenanigans of cassie post-manson/canon debunking?

it was right before CiW ended

kayokosaeki · Post by **kayokosaeki** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:50 pm

sparkybennett wrote:
arammat wrote:
house wrote:That message was...interesting.

Why would her father have to say: "Bree...this is your dad."? Wouldn't Bree *know* her father's voice. I realize they've been separated for a few weeks, but I think I'd remember my father's voice. If anything, I'm wondering if the Order is putting her dad up to leaving this message, in an effort to get Bree back.
Don't you just say who you are when you leave a message for somebody, though? I mean, I do. If I call one of my kids and get their voicemail, I always say, "It's Mom," before I leave my message. It's automatic.
I do the same.

agreed. plus, WE don't know it's her dad just by the sound of his voice. have some imagination here! not everything can be true to life when there's an audience to keep in mind.

khjq · Post by **khjq** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:51 pm

about Cassie,

The Creators might be wanting to revive THEIR Cassie, but for all the CiW followers, they weren't just gonna ignore CiW, so thats why they decided to come up with the "Cassie was a prankster" story...thats what I believe, hopefully thats the case and we will hear more about Cassie, or even get to see her...I REALLY like the idea that Cassie is Bree's alter ego...

arammat · Post by **arammat** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:52 pm

HyeMew wrote:"Go to the place where we used to talk about Feynman and Jared Diamond"?!

WTF that was LAME. I mean I love referring back to old stuff, but that was about the most blunt, blatant homage ever! Are you seriously saying Bree had a special "feynman and jared diamond talking spot"? Something about it rubbed me the wrong way, kind of as if all the smart stuff Bree knew about all sorts of random things aren't so random at all, since the things she told us actually came from her father. I don't know, I just realllly disliked that part because seriously Bree needs to be independently smart, not someone who got her two biggest "smart things" from her dad telling her.

I so disagree with you. When you are home-schooled, your parents are your teachers, so who else would she have talked with about these kinds of things? When I listened to the message, I imagined a park or someplace else near a library, as the kids I know that were homeschooled would get books from the library, often with their parents.
It's just a guess, but it made perfect sense to me.