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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:52 pm
by megs229
Okay... Sooo I have read all twenty nine pages and I am incredibly exhausted! lol but I completely understand where people are coming from when they say that people don't read and just post and then the same thing gets reposted umtean lol sp? times.
So I am just going to confirm that I did here the Jonas's being repeated and I also think that Jonas's hand was trying to fight away the attackers not cholorwhatevering himself.

I am also going to go ahead and agree with Southerbelle (not sure of her exact spelling) and say that I saw Beast put on the hoodie. I saw her post saying that and I immediately rewatched that several times and could clearly see it and my first thought went back to a screencap that someone did early on of the reflection in the car window where they only circled out the refection of the person and made no remarks on the person's clothing. My first thought was that it looked just like Daniel in a hoodie with his white T underneath, before SouthernBelle ever went on to mention that.

I am not sure as to where I stand with the whole Daniel having a trigger and stuff but I definately think that it was Beast in the reflection and that it was also Beast driving Jonas's car in the end.
This would also explain as to why Bree was startled, if he snuck up on her and then the look of recognition.
I don't however think he was working alone, because that would be impossible with the way they were being filmed from the beginning in Vegas. I do however think that he was possibly working with the person that was following them.

I know it will be a double post but I am going to post my interpretation of the photos in another post so that I don't have to go back and search for the other ones. :)

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:55 pm
by longlostposter
Thanks Luminous. :)

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:56 pm
by megs229
Okay so here is my interpretation:
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1) red= bare arm, he has his sleeves rolled up. this explains why the drivers arm is bare
2) yellow= zipper on the shirt. It is a zip front hoodie, if the zipper is only zipped up half way, and then pulled back the zipper would lay across the chest like this.
3) light blue= white t-shirt, enough said
4) green= jeans that Daniel was wearing jeans ... i dunno, what else to say to that

And here is the original if needed: Image

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:00 pm
by Chelseyrl
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I agree that the head shape looks like Daniel, but I really can't see anything else incriminating our Beast.

Edit: Dammit, nevermind. I draw on this one.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:02 pm
by megs229
sorry about the mess up. I fixed my previous post. check again and let me know what you think :D

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:02 pm
by longlostposter
megs229 wrote:I am not sure as to where I stand with the whole Daniel having a trigger and stuff but I definately think that it was Beast in the reflection and that it was also Beast driving Jonas's car in the end.
This would also explain as to why Bree was startled, if he snuck up on her and then the look of recognition.
There is no look of recognition (friendly one). All I see is utter terror.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:05 pm
by longlostposter
Can you get a screenshot of when you see Daniel put the hoodie on.

If Daniel did do this, he was triggered after he was attacked.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:07 pm
by Chelseyrl
longlostposter wrote:Can you get a screenshot of when you see Daniel put the hoodie on.

If Daniel did do this, he was triggered after he was attacked.
People think it is the scene where Daniel is roaring and shaking his head.

Also known as; his "capture"

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:11 pm
by longlostposter
Chelseyrl wrote:
longlostposter wrote:Can you get a screenshot of when you see Daniel put the hoodie on.

If Daniel did do this, he was triggered after he was attacked.
People think it is the scene where Daniel is roaring and shaking his head.

Also known as; his "capture"
Daniel is yelling "Bree" he is not "roaring". I still need a screenshot of the hoodie, because I don't see one going over his head. That is, if someone doesn't mind.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:12 pm
by jeezy
I think that Bree and Jonas captures are pretty clear... I'm not too sure about Daniel's... I'm not saying he's bad... but he could still under some mind control.....

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:13 pm
by Luminous
While we're on the subject of the hoodie, check this out

Outlined in red is what I think is someone in a hoodie over a white shirt, bending over to talk to someone in a blue dress shirt, outlined in green.

Again, maybe a gas station attendant? I'm not ready to believe it's our beast :!: :twisted:

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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:13 pm
by megs229
Okay... I am not very good with the screen cap thing, so this is all I could get.
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See the black on his shoulder, there is more there in the video but I couldn't get it, I couldn't pause it at the right times, sorry.

Oh yeah, llp, I am not sure that I agree with the look of recognition but I am saying that it would explain it for those people who think that. I think she was startled, as would be I if I we sneaked up on.

Hope this helps.....

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:13 pm
by Chelseyrl
longlostposter wrote:
Chelseyrl wrote:
longlostposter wrote:Can you get a screenshot of when you see Daniel put the hoodie on.

If Daniel did do this, he was triggered after he was attacked.
People think it is the scene where Daniel is roaring and shaking his head.

Also known as; his "capture"
Daniel is yelling "Bree" he is not "roaring". I still need a screenshot of the hoodie, because I don't see one going over his head. That is, if someone doesn't mind.
I don't either, I can kinda make out a hand but that's it.

I can't hear Bree though because I still have this image of him roaring like a lion. :lol:

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:16 pm
by megs229
Sorry to double post .... but LLP I think we need to redefine what we mean as a hoodie. Not the pull over kind but the kind that zip all the way up the front. This would explain how he could just put it on kind of like a jacket without going over his head and also what appears to be a zipper in the reflection. :)

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:17 pm
by longlostposter
Well, it helps, but the dark area you are talking about is where the white vinyl fence thing and the ground meet. It's a straight line except for the 'jags', and the area is way too wide to be his shoulder.

Also, who was filming around the corner if he wasn't attacked from behind? Someone else was there; of that there is no doubt.