who do u think was shot?

breewithcrackers · Post by **breewithcrackers** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:50 pm

just something i thought of...if they HAD shot Bree she would either:

A) be in the hospital with Jonas and Daniel and neither of the boys would have time to post a vid

or

B) be dead and Jonas and Daniel would be too grief stricken to post a vid (esp Daniel)

either way, the prompt vid from J and D is pretty good evidence that it wasn't Bree whom the order shot.

sarah · Post by **sarah** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:07 pm

Looks to me like Bree's dad was shot. They're clearly dragging him away.

When Daniel and Bree are running away and she screams, "Nooooooooo!" she's looking back at her dad/the other people. That would lead me to believe that they either shot her dad, or she thinks they shot her dad, anyway.

Then again! Maybe her dad shot someone else?

sarah · Post by **sarah** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:18 pm

Oh and also, when Daniel gets into the back of the car after he's like, "Go go go!" it sounds like he said something else. I think it was "They shot him."

kwicherbichen · Post by **kwicherbichen** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:55 pm

manderineoranges wrote:Bree.. I'm positive

for one thing.. they didn't need to shoot her dad, cuz they already had him.. he wasn't going anywhere. Plus.. they need him as bait now if anything, to catch Bree

And Bree was getting away.. so of course they're gunna try to like disable her somehow.. shoot her in the leg of course. ^_^

You can see her fall.. could because they got her dad but not all that likely. And then Daniel had to sorta drag her after that.

And it wasn't Jonas or Daniel cuz they were having no trouble running to the car and then driving away.

Your story doesn't make sense because if they shot Bree, what was stopping them from shooting the boys who are HELPING her escape?

It makes sense to me that they seized her father, shot him to kill him (and rid his body). Bree falls because well, I mean wtf would you do if you see your dad get shot? I would fall and cry, as well.

kwicherbichen · Post by **kwicherbichen** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:05 am

echoesofury wrote:It could have been 'unthinkable' that Bree's dad shot someone, too.

But I'm not sure why they'd be in such a hurry to leave if that were what happened.

I do kind of think that the guy standing alone looks like Bree's dad.

I never thought of BREE'S FATHER shooting someone... That would explain why she and the boys were not shot. Hmm! Good theory!!

DogNamedZippo · Post by **DogNamedZippo** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:09 am

PURPLE MONKEY WAS SHOT!!!!!!!!

echoesofury · Post by **echoesofury** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:24 am

kwicherbichen wrote:
echoesofury wrote:It could have been 'unthinkable' that Bree's dad shot someone, too.

But I'm not sure why they'd be in such a hurry to leave if that were what happened.

I do kind of think that the guy standing alone looks like Bree's dad.
I never thought of BREE'S FATHER shooting someone... That would explain why she and the boys were not shot. Hmm! Good theory!!

I think someone else mentioned Bree's father having a gun to defend himself before I did, so I can't take all the credit. But he could have been standing alone because the order person that didn't get shot could be coming to the other's aid. And since we can barely see what's happening from that distance, maybe the same goes for Bree/Daniel/Jonas. Even if I didn't see my dad get shot, the gunshot would be enough to scare me away. Just a thought.

Taig · Post by **Taig** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:20 am

My brother is a big "talent" guy in Hollywood; he was home for Christmas and he says Bree got "Shot" because she is starring in a new movie and will be leaving LG as soon as her contract is over.

sarah · Post by **sarah** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:27 am

Taig wrote:My brother is a big "talent" guy in Hollywood; he was home for Christmas and he says Bree got "Shot" because she is starring in a new movie and will be leaving LG as soon as her contract is over.

pimp monkette · Post by **pimp monkette** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:28 am

[quote="sarah"]Oh and also, when Daniel gets into the back of the car after he's like, "Go go go!" it sounds like he said something else. I think it was "They shot him."[/quote]

OMG I just went back and watched it again and it totally does sound like that!!

And it does really look like they're dragging off her dad after the shot. The reason Bree kinda stumbles I think is because she wants to go back and help her dad or something and Daniel pulls her back. She gets in the car all by herself.

That'd be sooo cool though if we had actually heard Brother's shot.

(edit) oh and BTW... It's [i]whom[/i] do you think was shot.

kwicherbichen · Post by **kwicherbichen** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:52 am

Who is Brother and why is it Whom?

kellylen · Post by **kellylen** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:56 am

i thought it was bree at first and then possibly brother shooting gemma but i think the father thing would go along with the unthinkable

like bree finds it unthinkable that her father was murdered. or well shot.

Cabby · Post by **Cabby** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:55 am

sorry for the cross-post-

Since it looks like Mr. Bree (I love that we're calling him that) is standing alone, and seemingly fine, I'm leaning towards the theory that he was not shot.
What I think... mostly... A gunshot is heard, and as someone pointed out earlier, it sounds like it is far away, or not close enough to the camera. In a parking garage something that is so few feet away would be much louder and echo much longer.
Bree sees her father fall, probably because he is struggling with the two people from the order.
She assumes that it was he who was shot because of this action.
Bree doubles over and screams 'no' because she thinks her father has been shot.

I think the gun shot may have actually been from below, where Gemma is (assuming it was not her in the suv... or that she had gotten out after driving past.) Brother has the whole thing set up to shoot Gemma, and we see her in an allyway. But there is no time peg as to which video came first. It seems to me that they are actually simultaneous and the gunshot we hear is brother a level down, and thus not loud enough to be in the same area.

But then again, I have a counter theory that Brother didn't shoot Gemma at all because he lacks the ability to find the "any" key.

curiousGeorge · Post by **curiousGeorge** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:44 am

Cabby wrote:sorry for the cross-post-

Since it looks like Mr. Bree (I love that we're calling him that)

Shouldn't that be Dr. Bree

or Dr. Bree Dad (Dr. Bread, Dread, etc.)

Either way, I agree it is funny.

On topic: I think the shots were from the Brother vid. That would be clever of the creators to do...

PaperLanterns · Post by **PaperLanterns** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:54 am

Ah!!! It's driving me nuts!

So I've watched it like a billion times and here is what I've gathered.

Bree and her father are walking toward his car...(it's kind of confusing because there's the semi-car chase scene before in which J and D lose Bree and her dad, then find the car, though its empty [where did they go?])...during that time, Jonas is saying something and I can hear the word "wait", but I can't understand anything else. The the other car pulls up in front of Bree and her dad. Both Jonas and Daniel freak out and run out of the car. Daniel calls out "Bree", Bree's dad gets between the bad guys and Bree, Bree runs to Daniel, they run to the car. A male voice saws "I'll hold him" then a few seconds later, there is a gun shot. Bree screams, not because shes been hurt but because she either saw her father get shot or he was really shot. Then they get into the car and Daniel says "Go, go go go, just go!" and then they drive out to the roof of the parking lot to get out I'm assuming.

I am 99% positive Bree was not harmed. I mean, if they want her enough to shoot someone, they wouldn't shoot her and risk her life. (shooting also leads to bleeding, which means that the meds we're assuming they gave her would be moot). And if they wanted her dead, I'm sure a bunch of adults/an entire group of people working together under The Order would be able to kill her, a single teenage girl.

I'm very hesitant to say that Gemma is the woman in the video because Gemma is very skinny and seems to be small (in comparison to Lucy) the woman in the video is heavier set and thicker than Gemma.

Also...I am so confused. Did Bree's dad really escape? Or was he let loose or what.
And why didn't anyone follow Bree, like seriously, that was obviously an attempt to either scare Bree or capture her. Why else would they shoot Bree's dad in front of her.

My ultimate conclusing is that the Order is playing herder and Bree/Daniel/Jonas are the little sheep. They won't even notice the Orders plan for them untilits already taken place. Everything is very deliberate. EVERYTHING.