[SOLVED] 2 vials - 4/17/07

trainer101 · Post by **trainer101** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:31 am

If deagol is correct about 'hurry!' (which I suspect is accurate because of the exclamation), then this might be another double-bagged puzzle. A substitution cypher which has been anagrammed.

The numbers could be part of an address - "Hurry!" could indicate another drop.

impulse · Post by **impulse** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:35 am

I don't know if that can help, but SALT is a term used in cryptography:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_(cryptography)

ignatzmouse · Post by **ignatzmouse** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:38 am

trainer101 wrote:If deagol is correct about 'hurry!' (which I suspect is accurate because of the exclamation), then this might be another double-bagged puzzle. A substitution cypher which has been anagrammed.

Good point. If so, those 2-letter words may be a good starting point, there's "only" 20-something common 2-letter words.

giddeanx · Post by **giddeanx** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:44 am

trainer101 wrote:If deagol is correct about 'hurry!' (which I suspect is accurate because of the exclamation), then this might be another double-bagged puzzle. A substitution cypher which has been anagrammed.

The numbers could be part of an address - "Hurry!" could indicate another drop.

If vvzcj is rrxxx. That leaves you with zcj = uyh (straight or box). the two letter words are "he", "us", "my", or "by".

Thats assuming all the words are anagramed sperately.

trainer101 · Post by **trainer101** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:47 am

Here is a list of "Most Likely Candidates"

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AM [be-conj] (to exist)
AN indefinite article
AS to the same degree
AT in the location of
AX to cut with an ax
BE to exist
BY side issue
DO to execute/first tone of musical scale
GO to leave
HA sound expressing triumph
HE male person
HI intj. used as a greeting
IF possible condition
IN influence
IS [be-conj] (to exist)
IT person playing tag/indefinite pronoun
ME pronoun referring to myself
MY possessive prounoun
NO negative reply
OF coming from
OH to exclaim "oh"
ON over or on top of
OR heraldic color gold
SO fifth tone of diatonic musical scale
TO toward
UP to raise
US objective pronoun for "we"
WE plural pronoun

Luminous · Post by **Luminous** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:53 am

Any theories about why each of the words, including the two letter ones, are capitalized? Doesn't seem like proper grammar either for a sentence or a title.

giddeanx · Post by **giddeanx** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:54 am

giddeanx wrote:
trainer101 wrote:If deagol is correct about 'hurry!' (which I suspect is accurate because of the exclamation), then this might be another double-bagged puzzle. A substitution cypher which has been anagrammed.

The numbers could be part of an address - "Hurry!" could indicate another drop.
If vvzcj is rrxxx. That leaves you with zcj = uyh (straight or box). the two letter words are "he", "us", "my", or "by".

Thats assuming all the words are anagramed sperately and then a substitution was done. my cannot be used at the same time as by. If each letter in the ciphered code represents another letter. 1 for 1.

giddeanx · Post by **giddeanx** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:55 am

Luminous wrote:Any theories about why each of the words, including the two letter ones, are capitalized? Doesn't seem like proper grammar either for a sentence or a title.

Maybe its a clue that it isn't anagramed.

trainer101 · Post by **trainer101** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:55 am

Luminous wrote:Any theories about why each of the words, including the two letter ones, are capitalized? Doesn't seem like proper grammar either for a sentence or a title.

Could be to indicate that each word is anagrammed independently. That would be my best guess.

ignatzmouse · Post by **ignatzmouse** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:02 pm

trainer101 wrote:Here is a list of "Most Likely Candidates"

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WE plural pronoun

Don't forget:

LN abbrev. lane
RD abbrev. road
ST abbrev. street

since we may be looking at an address.

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:15 pm

Sowehws Hipn - Aghfil Nxblq - Lj Tbmx Ac Qwdef - 8404← Vvzcj!

Sowehws

~ SHE WOWS
~ SHES WOW
~ SEWS HOW
~ SEWS WHO
~ SEW SHOW
~ WE SHOWS

Hipn

~ No anagrams found

Well...crap...so maybe not just individually anagramed...at least not straight from what we have.

Sorry...I kinda suck at this.

ignatzmouse · Post by **ignatzmouse** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:24 pm

Kasdeja wrote:Well...crap...so maybe not just individually anagramed...at least not straight from what we have.

I'm afraid Trainer's suggestion was more devious than that

it's that the message has been anagrammed and then encrypted using a substitution cipher. If so, we need to decrypt then de-anagram.

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:28 pm

It's the decrypting part I'm a complete loser at, haha. Hey, I try to learn by watching, lol.

marlasinger · Post by **marlasinger** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:30 pm

Kas - the problem of the anagram is that it could be coded THEN anagramed, which means that we're not looking for words when we de-anagram it.

Also: can we add "UP" to the two letter word list?

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:31 pm

Yeah, that's why I said at least not anagramed straight from what we have.