Lonelygirl15

Haha I loved it. Props on the cherry stem

marlasinger wrote:hey remember that time plath stuck her head in an oven?

Lmao. That made me laugh a load.

But then again, two minutes earlier I was screaming like a mad russian woman for no reason.

ADHD, much?

We wanna hear some of ur poetry over on the comments LG15 homepage.........

nowherepixie wrote:

marlasinger wrote:hey remember that time plath stuck her head in an oven?

Ouch!

plath was crazy! It's okay, I didn't say I don't like her stuff, but if anyone can tell me that reading Sylvia for a day doesn't make them want to die, I'll be impressed.

She chose an interesting way to go, at the very least. I didn't mean to be offensive. Plath was just a major downer, man.

marlasinger wrote:

nowherepixie wrote:

marlasinger wrote:hey remember that time plath stuck her head in an oven?

Ouch!

plath was crazy! It's okay, I didn't say I don't like her stuff, but if anyone can tell me that reading Sylvia for a day doesn't make them want to die, I'll be impressed.

She chose an interesting way to go, at the very least. I didn't mean to be offensive. Plath was just a major downer, man.

Some people don't believe that she really wanted to die. The gas-oven thing was a test for her new book, or something.

But she wasn't particularly happy. And her voice is pretty unhinging.

Unhinging is the word. But I think I like it.
But I'm odd anyways

Plath had tried to commit suicide before and I'm not going to believe for a moment that locking your kids in their rooms and sticking your head in an oven with the gas turned on is "research" for a new book.
Sorry, just doesn't work for me.

marlasinger wrote:Plath had tried to commit suicide before and I'm not going to believe for a moment that locking your kids in their rooms and sticking your head in an oven with the gas turned on is "research" for a new book.
Sorry, just doesn't work for me.

This is why i get upset when people try to put Anne Sexton in the same category as Sylvia Plath.
Although they both had mental illness, and were both suicidal, Sexton still always looked for the positive. I don't mean up beat happy go lucky bull shit. I mean that she really was always looking for a way to make it (life) work. Intellectually she knew what was right and wrong. But there is not logic when it comes to feelings...Sara?

..thoughts?

voyboy wrote:

marlasinger wrote:Plath had tried to commit suicide before and I'm not going to believe for a moment that locking your kids in their rooms and sticking your head in an oven with the gas turned on is "research" for a new book.
Sorry, just doesn't work for me.

This is why i get upset when people try to put Anne Sexton in the same category as Sylvia Plath.
Although they both had mental illness, and were both suicidal, Sexton still always looked for the positive. I don't mean up beat happy go lucky bull shit. I mean that she really was always looking for a way to make it (life) work. Intellectually she knew what was right and wrong. But there is not logic when it comes to feelings...Sara?
..thoughts?

Of course there is logic when it comes to feelings. ...Or at least there is if you are strong enough to apply it.

My mother told me that she wouldn't allow herself to fall in love with my father until she knew he was interested in making enough money to provide for the family she wanted. Once she found out he was going to be a Physicist, she fell in love with him (and he with her) together they had 8 kids and saw them mostly raised before she died. On the moment she died, my father cried out, "No! She was my best friend!" There was some serious strong emotion in that bond, but neither of them let it get in the way of making logical, well reasoned decisions.

It's that way with life, too. I may not love the life I'm in and I may feel that a decision of death is a h*ll of a lot easier than continually having to make the decision of life; but logic dictates that if there is a God then there is a reason I've been put here and have not died. If there is no God, I only have this one life before oblivion. Oblivion may sound wonderful (and, yes, to me it does) but it's permanent. Life isn't. May as well continually decide to stick around while I actually have the ability to make decisions.

That's the choose life difference between Plath and Sexton. It has nothing to do with emotion and everything to do with logic and intelligence. Plath just wasn't smart enough to work the logic. Don't kid yourself. It takes smarts. It's damn hard to look beyond the pain and emotion is pain. Emotion puts blinders on us when we allow it.

Although I hate quoting the Bible, it actually has the best example of this. When Christ was on the cross, he said, "My God, my God! Why have you forsaken me!" If Christ was God and Son of God, then he knew God hadn't forsaken him! Yet he still shouted that out. For a second he couldn't see past the intense pain, the shame and degradation, to know the truth. Emotion had blinded him. If he wasn't God/Son of God, he was a man who desparately wanted to die because he could make no logic connection past the suffering. (Nor can I, given his situation!)

Blast this forum! I've been posting heavy treatises all evening! I never write this much! And not a single smiley! What has come over me! LOL