0161 - "Subjects Apprehended" 3/26/07

silvermoon · Post by **silvermoon** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:18 pm

longlostposter wrote: The attack on Daniel starts at 1:02, and that is also when he yells "Bree".

There are frame-by-frame screencaps posted by heyiknowyous of Daniel being attacked in this thread. I think they start on page 5.

I've seen all the screenshots and took the time to read all the posts. I still just see the back of Daniel's shirt, no one actually attacking. I'm not saying he wasn't by any means, just that I don't think that the video shows him clearly getting attacked.

Does anyone with the technology available have the time to make a clip of Daniel yelling "bree"? Cuz I'm just not hearing that.

I'm off to watch again and I'll specifically stop at 1:02 and go through it slowly.

Edit to add: OK, there is a sound effect when they show Daniel, but I don't think it's clear enough to really know what he's yelling.

I'd also like to add, even if he is yelling "Bree", it doesn't mean he's getting attacked, just that he's yelling at/for Bree.

Chelseyrl · Post by **Chelseyrl** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:20 pm

Okay, Here is a map of all the surrounding areas of the gas station that were in the videdo. The star=the gas station.

I don't know if this helps anything but yeah.

megs229 · Post by **megs229** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:20 pm

Not sure how you see that as being the ground meeting the vinyl fence so I circled what I am talking about just to be sure.....

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:22 pm

Ok, I'm not opposed to a mind-controlled, evil Daniel; in fact, it is what I've been expecting, and could be even more exciting. However, I see an attack here, plain and simple. And I also hear him trying to warn Bree.

Until I see him actually put something on him in a screencap (and I've looked for him putting some kind of clothing on, over and over), I will believe he was attacked.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:25 pm

Again, meg, clothing doesn't appear on people out of thin air. It has to be put on. This part of the clip is all of 2 seconds long. I need to see Daniel put the damn thing on.

jeezy · Post by **jeezy** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:25 pm

longlostposter wrote:Ok, I'm not opposed to a mind-controlled, evil Daniel; in fact, it is what I've been expecting, and could be even more exciting. However, I see an attack here, plain and simple. And I also hear him trying to warn Bree.

Until I see him actually put something on him in a screencap (and I've looked for him putting some kind of clothing on, over and over), I will believe he was attacked.

I don't think there is a clip of where he puts on some kind of clothing... but in that screen cap he does have some sort of hoodie on... I agree... they were attacked, all three of them...

silvermoon · Post by **silvermoon** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:27 pm

longlostposter wrote:Again, meg, clothing doesn't appear on people out of thin air. It has to be put on. This part of the clip is all of 2 seconds long. I need to see Daniel put the damn thing on.

Clothing does have to be put on...but the clip of it doesn't have to make it to the video... I'm sure lots of things happened during the attack that the Order chose not to put in the clip. Doesn't mean they didn't happen.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:31 pm

That's true, silver. I'm just basing this on what I saw, and the audio seems continuous, and so I guess I'm making the leap that the video is too.

megs229 · Post by **megs229** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:31 pm

He has a hoodie on in that section. It doesn't show him putting it on, he is just wearing it. They don't show the actors changing everytime they wear something different. He has it on, you don't have to see him physically put it on to see that he is wearing it.
Also, I don't think he is saying Bree, it sounds like he is just moaning with something over his mouth. Possibly made so that it looks like he was attacked.... My thoughts are he either one) put the hoodie on and then they sneaked up on him and did the mind control thing ( which I am not saying that I do or do not believe, but I guess it is a possibility) or two) This was staged to look like he was attacked and he screwed up by putting on the hoodie before hand instead of afterward.....

Chelseyrl · Post by **Chelseyrl** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:34 pm

bethy wrote:The thing that sticks out to me most is the eye mark all through the video...

Here is is adjusted a bit...because I find it creepier:

I should've asked Bethy this last night but I was wondering if this is just a constant image of eyes or if it's a video of something layered over it

Luminous · Post by **Luminous** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:38 pm

Finally, the slow mo video is playing on YouTube (Revver is still processing). I'll post the link again since the thread is moving so fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTFKSqOqyG4

Chelseyrl · Post by **Chelseyrl** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:43 pm

Luminous wrote:Finally, the slow mo video is playing on YouTube (Revver is still processing). I'll post the link again since the thread is moving so fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTFKSqOqyG4

What I noticed in your slow mo is that around 20 seconds, you can see the eyes like get closer to the camera.

EDIT
Hey Lum, are you able to lighten up the whole video?

Luminous · Post by **Luminous** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:47 pm

Chelseyrl wrote:
bethy wrote:The thing that sticks out to me most is the eye mark all through the video...
Here is is adjusted a bit...because I find it creepier:

I should've asked Bethy this last night but I was wondering if this is just a constant image of eyes or if it's a video of something layered over it

Is it just me, or does anyone else see a resemblance between the "eye" in the recent video and the background of the OpA Logo?

megs229 · Post by **megs229** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:48 pm

Luminous wrote:Finally, the slow mo video is playing on YouTube (Revver is still processing). I'll post the link again since the thread is moving so fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTFKSqOqyG4

Thanks for that!!!

Chelseyrl · Post by **Chelseyrl** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:50 pm

Those are clearly hands.