0161 - "Subjects Apprehended" 3/26/07

[Shaneener]

Also, I see a hand on Bree's shoulder for a second, right before she turns around. It's just a plain hand, not really a clue.

Someone posted a screencap of Jonas. It's Jonas in the car, waiting for Bree and DB because they're taking toooooo loooooong.

Turns out, they were kidnapped by freaky-deaky Order people. =P

[giddeanx]

lol, I realize you aren't personally deleting.
What Chelsey suggested was that posts that don't provide any new concrete ideas/information should be deleted.
I had posted some screencaps, speculating that an object looked like a face to me. According to Chelsey, that post should be deleted.
I am saying that I think that would be unfair. I think it would insult people to start doing that. And it would only make it easier for us to miss some clue.
And I have no idea what you mean by posters separating their own posts.

Hell that would delete 25% of my posts.

[Luminous]

Its blue limo lights on a stretch hummer.

Thanks for clearing that up! lol

Sorry did you already say that somewhere. Sorry.

What was the time of the other screen cap?

No, I have no clue what it is. What you say about the stretch limo makes sense.

The two screen caps with the blue light are at 09:09, and 13:09

[Shaneener]

OMG.

I just figured something out.

Okay, you know how the video camera's in an eye-shape? It's dark around thee edges and the lighter part is shaped like an eyeball.

Well, the camera must belong to THE WATCHERS.

Okay, sorry if someone said that already, but I just figured that out.

And, there would have to be atleast two people, because one person would be filming while the other person was putting the keys in the car.

OH AND QUICK FACT:

DB was wearing the same shirt in his "Miss Me?" video.
CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Is it a sign?

[PinkRanger]

Wow. I can't believe that I read 37 pages! *phew* I'm super tired but just wanted to add my two cents after reading all of this:

-I definetly agree that the person entering the car as seen in the screenshot (somewhere in the thread haha) is wearing a hooding and a white shirt. If not a hoodie and a white shirt, at least not a suit because you can see what looks to be a bare arm reaching for the door handle in the reflection. Like others have pointed out, this is also supported by the bare arm seen putting the car into gear. As for who this person is, I have no idea. I don't think its DB because I believe that him being captured is evident with the hand grabbing his shirt and so on...but then again, you can't really take everything for face value...this could be completely wrong haha. Oh well, just more speculation! Can't wait for the next vid.

[Ravensnow27]

You can even hear the keys go in when you see the elbow hand thingy

Then you're watching the wrong video. The one I'm saying to watch is the slow-mo one and there is no sound.

It isn't necessary to trim down the thread. You would just get more posts of angry people who are insulted that their posts were deleted.

I guess I got shot down on that pretty fast. Sorry I took up your precious forum space..?

Many people would agree with me on this one but whatever. I'll get barked at again for this.

I understand the concept of deleting pre-video posts (though I don't see why everyone bitches about it so much, I personally don't care.. just don't read them if you don't like them..). However, it would be just unfair to delete the posts of people actually trying to be productive just because their theories were wrong.

Also, I hate when people can't think of any comeback other than "well everyone else thinks so too.. HA." That doesn't prove anything. Just because many people would agree with you doesn't mean that you are right.

I think everyone has to get used to the fact that this is a forum open to anyone and not every post in every thread is going to interest you/illustrate your beliefs.

Thank you for your time. You may now return to your regularly scheduled rants about how worthless everyone else is.

I have no problem with the thread or people posting. I just wish it would have been divided into the seperate topics before it got out of hand. There may be some very interesting posts buried in the center of this haystack that no one will ever see, because it is hard for someone to read all of the posts.

Well, we are more likely to miss something if we start deleting all the theories and posts that the majority disagrees with.

Um Im not with deleting only that I wish they were premptively seperated by the posters themselves.

lol, I realize you aren't personally deleting.
What Chelsey suggested was that posts that don't provide any new concrete ideas/information should be deleted.
I had posted some screencaps, speculating that an object looked like a face to me. According to Chelsey, that post should be deleted.
I am saying that I think that would be unfair. I think it would insult people to start doing that. And it would only make it easier for us to miss some clue.
And I have no idea what you mean by posters separating their own posts.

Good Gawd!! If we deleted everything that has already been said or didn't provide any new ideas or concrete proofs I would have nothing to waste my time reading while I should be working! Seriously guys, everyones comment is worth reading. It sucks to get that happy hopeful feeling thinking you "spotted" something just to have someone tell you how irrelevant your comment is (even if it IS irrelevant)

[Magesa]

The last time I looked at this thread it was only 17 pages long... and I thought it was hard to catch up THEN! This is rivalling the thread on "The Human Ransom"!

I've watched the video over some more time. I've come back to the obvious conclusion: freaky Order person (or people) drive through Las Vegas in their car, keep watch on Bree/DB/Jonas (most of the scenery shots were from the same place, they might have been waiting around for them). Then freaky Order people spot the people. They go after DB first, although his capture is the fuzziest. He also makes this really, really odd sound at about the same time that Bree cries, "Jonas!" It could be him getting chlorofoamed, or maybe he really does have a "trigger." Then Order person sneaks up on Bree and she gasps in surprise and recognition (if she didn't recognize the person she certainly figured out that she was in danger, and tried to warn Jonas). Then Jonas clearly gets a cloth pushed into his face, and he snorts in a really scary way. The rest of the video reminded me of the end of "Gemma? Part V" after she was killed. I'm not quite sure why.

At least we've got some action, finally.

I'm sorry if this post has been redundant/unhelpful, I really don't have the time to read through 38 pages!

[giddeanx]

First this, at 00:09:09
The first image is the actual screen cap, the image below is a close-up of what I'm examining.

This looks like its on a vehicle as well.

A vehicle passes by. In the screen cap you can see the reflection of the hotel on the other side of the street in the vehicles windows. Middle top.
In the next frame you can see the back of the vehicle on the right side.
For more verification, cutting off the sight line, makes the area dark and changes the auto iris on the camera. That is why when we see the poster the second time it bleached out until the iris resets.

[Sheqinah]

Not sure how you see that as being the ground meeting the vinyl fence so I circled what I am talking about just to be sure.....

I don't think that is a vinyl fence. Look at the slow mo video someone made on yahoo. I think DB was opening up an ice box that is common at gas stations. I think that is the insulated inside of the door he opened.

Yikes! Maybe the order just tossed the boys on ice.

Also someone said there is a picture of Bree being laid down in the car. One still shot does look like it is bree. But watch the slow mo and it is actually Jonas sitting in his car then deciding to get out and sit At least that is my take on it.

[Sheqinah]

Okay, I'm sorry if this has been mentioned, I don't have time to read (12 page thesis paper due tomorrow.. up to page 3).

Check this out. Watch Luminous' slow-mo video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTFKSqOqyG4
(PS - major cudos, thanks so much)

Something, that looks almost like a face, or something, enters the screen shot at 4:13 and 4:14 (in the slowmo vid). The top left corner. Then it leaves. This is just before the arm pulls the gear shift to drive away.

I took two screencaps. I tried to brighten and sharpen them as best I could with my free downloaded shit program.




Thoughts?

I think it is keys as the driver puts them in the ignition.

[Sheqinah]

LOL - Seems I've stirred up enough trouble in this thread, might as well stir up a little more. Here are a couple of screen caps I meant to post earlier, but didn't have time. I'm curious - what is the blue light thingy? I haven't been to Vegas in along time - maybe this is something recognizable to you who have been, or maybe it's a piece of order technology?

First this, at 00:09:09
The first image is the actual screen cap, the image below is a close-up of what I'm examining.



Then this, at 00:13:09
Again, the first image is the actual screen cap, the image below is a close-up of what I'm examining.

Those lights are on the side of limo's

[Misty]

over at LGpedia there's a debate as to whether or not this is an OpAphid video, or a separate faction of the order. this has a big significance to how things are catagorized .


look at http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/ind ... pprehended




what does everyone think?

[giddeanx]

over at LGpedia there's a debate as to whether or not this is an OpAphid video, or a separate faction of the order. this has a big significance to how things are catagorized .


look at http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/ind ... prehended



what does everyone think?

This is not an OpAphid video. If OpAphid created it she would have put her trademark at the end of it. She seems rather full of herself.

This is a video from a member of the Order no one can be completely sure who.

[michiev]

Here, at 01:10:02 – a captured Bree. In the background is the arm of a man wearing a blue dress shirt with sleeves rolled up.


This looks like Daniel to me, not Bree. Look at the shape of the nose. It's that strange rounded shape of Daniel's.

A few frames later, 01:10:23, a captured Bree stretching her arms out – possibly being restrained or searched?


This strikes me as strange. Wouldn't she be passed out if she had been chlorofoamed? Also, I'm seeing Jonas. Looks like a black shirt. And the bicep is way too muscular for Bree. Maybe I'm seeing the wrong thing?

And finally, 01:27:27, out the front window of Jonas car, again, as it is driving away, look to the right, just above the dashboard – does anyone see what I see?


No, what do you see?? I just see a blinding light..?

I'm sorry to have deleted so much, but it would have been way too big.
I wrote comments to the screenshots I kept. My thoughts are written in red. The rest is all credible to Luminous. [/b]

Okay so ive figured that part out, Its just jonas in the car..I mean they close in on him when hes waiting and the blue sleeve dude is obviously someone outside getting gas or something like that.

But it is jonas sitting in the car waiting, The lighting makes it look totally creepy when its screencapped, I can tell because of when he gets up i can see his jonas arms. ;o...

[Ravensnow27]

Mmmmmm....Jonas arms

But yeah, looks like jonas sittin in the car to me