[Puzzle] The Message: What is being asked of us? 10/21

prep him · Post by **prep him** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:13 pm

Luv2Luvem wrote:
surrealisticpill wrote:again, another thought based on wiki links starting with apophenia

A- apophenia
P - pareidolia
H - hindsight
I - interpretation
D - digits?

????
The Apophenia thing was meant as a joke, meaning that we could basically get the letters A P H I & D out of anything. Apophenia is seeing a connection in everything. Just like you did with the article and the letters. It's supposed to be ironic....and judging by all the people who are taking it seroius it is.

I initially saw it as ironic, but then Nora continued to persue it, as if knowing something that we didn't.

prep him · Post by **prep him** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:15 pm

new A IN APHID clue:

2/5: Attention leads to invocation.

Perhaps Rambam and Abenezra were right...

...but what if Baudelaire was correct instead?

A IN APHID

Ziola · Post by **Ziola** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:18 pm

Not remembering things clearly, but RAMBAM is an acronym for someones name. And Abenezra was a writer from the middle ages, lots of religious works. What is that they agreed upon that Beaudalaire disagreed with?

Luv2Luvem · Post by **Luv2Luvem** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:20 pm

surrealisticpill wrote:crappy acronym... sorry

ok well i got the apophenia from someone that seemed knowledgable, and the links in the wiki articles all seemed to make a little sense. i don't want to steer anyone off, just thoughts.

I'm sorry, I just read my response to you and it wasn't meant to sound rude at all. It was meant as a joke...obviously not a very funny one.

Ziola · Post by **Ziola** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:25 pm

To those who have proven themselves worthy:

Find instruction within the message. Only then will you be prepared.

The first step toward any solution? The A in APHID, of course.

However, do not underestimate the importance of rest. Even God rested on the seventh day.

Sleep is a reward for some, a punishment for others. For all, it is a sanction.

Just posted. So, apparently, we should sleep. Why don't I see that happening. And why is is a reward for some, a punishment for others?

taiya · Post by **taiya** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:29 pm

I think maybe opaphid is saying that she needs sleep too and that tomorrow might be a day of rest for her...

Ziola · Post by **Ziola** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:29 pm

Okay, so check this out. I found Abenezra on wiki, followed a link and found this

http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Pentate ... be nothing

covedweller · Post by **covedweller** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:34 pm

taiya wrote:I think maybe opaphid is saying that she needs sleep too and that tomorrow might be a day of rest for her...

Yeah. Sleep is a reward for her, a punishment for us!

Ziola · Post by **Ziola** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:35 pm

And RamBam, who is actually Rabbi Moshe ben Maimon wrote this

Maimonides was led by his admiration for the neo-Platonic commentators to maintain many doctrines which the Scholastics could not accept. For instance, Maimonides was an adherent of "negative theology" (also known as "Apophatic theology".) In this theology, one attempts to describe God through negative attributes. For instance, one should not say that God exists in the usual sense of the term; all we can safely say is that God is not non-existent. We should not say that "God is wise"; but we can say that "God is not ignorant", i.e. in some way, God has some properties of knowledge. We should not say that "God is One", but we can state that "there is no multiplicity in God's being". In brief, the attempt is to gain and express knowledge of God by describing what God is not; rather than by describing what God "is".

toadlguy · Post by **toadlguy** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:47 pm

From opAphid profile:

The first step toward any solution? ANALYSIS. Analyze the data in front of you.

A = ANALYSIS

ixlr8 · Post by **ixlr8** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:50 pm

toadlguy wrote:From opAphid profile:

The first step toward any solution? ANALYSIS. Analyze the data in front of you.

A = ANALYSIS

FYI, it's analyze, not analysis.
http://lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic ... c&start=15

covedweller · Post by **covedweller** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:48 am

So what is the message asking of us then?

Luv2Luvem · Post by **Luv2Luvem** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:20 am

Ok, so I've been thinking and I messaged OpAphid saying that I know it's a little early but is the P in APHID Plan, or Prepare. She sent back surprisingly quick with this message. Just thought I'd share it.

Neither.

The worthy shall demonstrate the P in APHID, if they understand our message

Absynth · Post by **Absynth** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:05 am

hey i dont know if this helps, but the sleep thing is also a quote:

Sleep is a reward for some, a punishment for others. For all, it is a sanction.
Isidore Ducasse Lautreamont

maybe there is some info related to this Isidore person

Cu_Roi · Post by **Cu_Roi** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:21 am

Op has this posted on her profile:

Find instruction within the message. Only then will you be prepared.

She's telling us that our next instructions are hidden in the Voicemail message. So lets take a look at that.

Well done, but remember:

Each success only buys an admission ticket to a more difficult problem. [Henry Kissinger]

It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong. [Voltaire]

Mistakes are the portals to discovery. [James Joyce]

Alas, never interrupt an enemy when he is making a mistake. [Napoleon]

It is possible to fail in many ways, while to succeed is possible only in one way. [Aristotle]

Do what’s right, the right way, at the right time. [Arnold H. Glasgow]

A story is told as much by silence as by speech. [Susan Griffin]

Except in this case.

And then wait for further instruction.

I've formated it this way to make it easier to see the different types of information.

We've confirmed that every thing in bold is a quote with the author in brackets. What is drawing my attention is that last part "And then wait for further instruction".

Op is very careful with her diction. "And then"...is totally out of place gramatically. It implies that there are previous instructions in the text before it. We need to focus on everything before that line and see what Op has tried to impart to us. That is where progress will be made. Not in debating the meaning of the quotes, but in decoding the quotes.

This is the data we need to analyze.

I'm just not sure if I'm smart enough to do it myself.