0101 "Undisclosed Location" [12/20/06]

livelongandprosper77 · Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:05 am

uuuuuuuuuhh.. it sure is late my eyes are getting heavy but is sure is hard to sleep with this new mystery swirling around in my head.....

trainer101 · Post by **trainer101** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:08 am

EliCash wrote:Was anybody besides "Gemma" ever able to find the Watchers symbol? If somebody actually found it, maybe this symbol can be found using the same source...

Nikki found a box with the Watcher symbol on it - before Gemma's vid came out.

krmurr87 · Post by **krmurr87** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:17 am

i hate it when it's three in the morning and no one is on the forum

EliCash · Post by **EliCash** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:19 am

I should have been more clear. I meant, was anybody able to find the Watchers symbol in a book or any actual source that has symbols?

Luv2Skydive · Post by **Luv2Skydive** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:21 am

Sleepiness is closing in....YEA! Night-night.....

trainer101 · Post by **trainer101** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:23 am

EliCash wrote:I should have been more clear. I meant, was anybody able to find the Watchers symbol in a book or any actual source that has symbols?

Oh, sorry. No, there are alot of similar symbols from the "All Seeing Eye" to the "Eye of Horus" to symbols found in online games. But no exact match.

livelongandprosper77 · Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:27 am

I guess we will have to wait and see if Daniel finds anymore symbols at the company's warehouse he mentioned to connect anywhere else unless someone comes up with something striking. We can't totally say for sure if Daniel will be able to give us this info though because the watchers may be expecting him: can you say disappearance? Hmm... well i guess that is enough sleepy thoughts from me goodnight everyone...

trainer101 · Post by **trainer101** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:28 am

trainer101 wrote:
EliCash wrote:I should have been more clear. I meant, was anybody able to find the Watchers symbol in a book or any actual source that has symbols?
Oh, sorry. No, there are alot of similar symbols from the "All Seeing Eye" to the "Eye of Horus" to symbols found in online games. But no exact match.

I even tried the site "The Tao of Tattoos" but all I found was this.
Illuminati - The illuminati were a secret organisation of 'adepts' or enlightened ones with extraordinary power. There is many conspiracies surrounding them and many claim that the American dollar bills contain illuninati symbolism which is the eye in the triangle or 'all-seeing eye'. In tattoos there are many variations of this symbol as there are many different reasons for getting it.

Coincidently, this is right below it.
Infinity - The infinity symbol looks like a number eight lying on its side as is an ancient arabic symbol. Many people get this as a tattoo to represent the eternal nature of the soul.

Means nothing tangible.

ohhhmyyygoddd · Post by **ohhhmyyygoddd** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:39 am

Somnia wrote:
Also, another reference to his suspiciously absent parents. Just thought I'd state the obvious

[Edited once for clarity]

so if he went missing...noone would notice

trainer101 · Post by **trainer101** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:45 am

Disclaimer

Before anyone accuses me of being totally off my rocker

– I did not make this up. You can read it for yourself here:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... part10.htm

The Use of Giving Demonic Assistance to entrap
One of the principles (giving tactics) of the spirit world is that if you go to get help from demons, they have a spiritual opportunity to enter into your life in other ways. This involves spiritual laws. People, who have been healed by occult healers, have discovered that it set them up for demonic activity in their life. Of course, it is easy to write this, but often only the victims of occult help, who have already learned the lesson the hard way, believe it.
The ultimate that Lucifer can pretend to give is divinity. Divinity is sometimes symbolized by the Illuminati as an 8 on its side or the infinity symbol. The divine within a hierarchy member is called the High Self. It also goes by the name Dian Y Glas or Blue God in the hierarchy’s parlance. The given names of Joan, Janicot, Jean, and Jonet are popular in generational witchcraft families because they mean the High Self. The cabalistic name for the High Self (internal divinity) is NESHAMAH. According to Illuminati hierarchy beliefs, the High Self can only be communicated to via symbols, music and myth that go through the unconscious mind. In other words, don’t talk to it, show it. This is part of the reason Illuminati witch covens make noise in ceremonies, dance and use objects, they believe these are essential to communicate to their High Self.

Woo · Post by **Woo** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:05 am

yay, Daniel!

I found http://raath.org/v5/archives/2005/04/th ... scate.html this site interesting with regards to the symbol, as it mentions its use in the occult;

It is in the esoteric world that the infinity symbol is most often found (outside of mathematics), where the lemniscate has become symbolic of the future and futurist thought, depicting eternal life, harmonious interaction between conscious and subconscious, serenity, harmony and dominion over the physical plane. Simply because of the lemniscate's symbolically laden but (at the same time) symbolically neutral nature, newly founded modern religious and philosophical groups often tend to associate with it and appropriate it as their own. In turn, even newer communities form and draw upon the symbols of the slightly older groups, lending historical rights and perpetuation to an otherwise neutral symbol

There is more on the site, and it talks about how it is sometimes used in rituals and for ritual scarring.

Woo · Post by **Woo** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:07 am

I just found this:

Others reports of meta-physical rituals also contain references to the lemniscate: "The ritual preparation started for me at the Winter Solstice when I volunteered during a semi-public ritual in London to be one of those calling down the sun-child so the Sun could be reborn. [...] I became aware that there was within me a room filled with white light. Then, into this room came a spiralling light formed in the shape of a figure of eight. [...] Then I recognised the light form. It was in the ancient shape of an infinity symbol, it was God himself. "

VERY interesting

Especially considering the time of year..!

emosux · Post by **emosux** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:10 am

that looks less like an infinity sign and more like a stylized Möbius strip to me, but i might be grasping at straws

trainer101 · Post by **trainer101** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:14 am

emosux wrote:that looks less like an infinity sign and more like a stylized Möbius strip to me, but i might be grasping at straws

I believe the Möbius strip evolved into the infinity symbol over time.

emosux · Post by **emosux** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:16 am

trainer101 wrote:
emosux wrote:that looks less like an infinity sign and more like a stylized Möbius strip to me, but i might be grasping at straws
I believe the Möbius strip evolved into the infinity symbol over time.

how in the world do you figure? the mobius strip has only been around since 1858

edit-

Wikipedia wrote:A popular explanation is that the infinity symbol is derived from the shape of a Möbius strip. Again, one can imagine walking along its surface forever. However, this explanation is improbable, since the symbol had been in use to represent infinity for over two hundred years before August Ferdinand Möbius and Johann Benedict Listing discovered the Möbius strip in 1858.

but double edit-

one of the typefaces on wikipedia for the infinity symbols looks exactly like that symbol. oh, well!