Jonas=Order??

Destrin41016 · Post by **Destrin41016** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:14 am

Phoenician wrote:I noticed the eye similarity too, but I still thought that was just for dramatic purposes.

I also noticed Jonas' words echoing occasionally like Daniel's did when he was "captured."

ya in some parts the sound was amplifyed or something i think

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:36 am

The thing about it is, Daniel is the one who posted the video, so that means he did the editing; as Missmadness said in the video thread.If Daniel is being controlled by the Order, this would explain the Op feel to it.

My opinion: The word "bitch" is the trigger word.

Heeheehee

GuySmiley · Post by **GuySmiley** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:54 am

Just to throw this out there on the subject of Jonas with the order. If you watch the human ransom video at the very end when they all are heading up to the roof with Lucy hot on their heels they go up the ladder in the order of Bree, Daniel and then presumably Jonas who was filming even though the video does not get that far. Now, this might be just because this is essentially a low budget production, but it appears that there is no way they all are going to make it up and out before Lucy reaches them. And Jonas being last he would have been the one she would have caught. The fact that she did not grab Jonas to replace the now escaped Daniel, would indicate that possible she wanted Jonas to reamain with them.

Anyway Just a thought

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:04 am

yea thats been a huge discussion for a whi GuySmiley.
But I think we can just credit it to low budgeting.

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:29 am

longlostposter wrote:
outlaww wrote:So what if he wasn't calling the cabin to get the heat turned on?

He could have been telling someone to leave the house before he came (His parents, maybe?) OR telling someone exactly when they were getting there (The order, maybe?).

I don't know. I totally didn't expect Jonas to be bad news, and I'm still pretty skeptical. But that phone call is really sticking out in my mind...
If you look at the video "Jonas Sucks", you will see that Daniel says Jonas is still using the cell phone (from the cabin). We've all been wondering who he's calling, especially since he seemed to have no friends or family.

This made me think...if they knew that he is using his cell phone...why aren't they standing right next to him listening to his conversation? If Jonas pushed them away and tried to hide the fact he was using it, that would make him more guilty than anything. Maybe Daniel and Bree should go through his phone now that he is all tied up.

cosmicdancer · Post by **cosmicdancer** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:55 pm

Yeah I'm not sure why they haven't gone through his calls list. It would make sense, wouldn't it? More sense than screaming at him for an hour. Geesh.

Languorous Lass · Post by **Languorous Lass** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:29 pm

Lurker wrote:My point was just that thematically this isn't exactly a repeat of Gemma. It was set up quite differently. I'm not saying that he may not be an Op operative on those grounds, just that, if he is, they took a different approach than with Gemma.

Completely agree, Lurker. There are far more differences than parallels, IMHO.

cosmicdancer wrote:I'm not sure why they haven't gone through his calls list. It would make sense, wouldn't it? More sense than screaming at him for an hour.

Well, some of us have joked that Bree wants to be Tachyon when she grows up. Maybe she's trying just a little too hard to be Tachyon right now.

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:37 pm

ARIES1 wrote:Maybe, as others have said, the Order is behind Jonas' parents' disappearance. They could be blackmailing him to trade Bree for his parents (which still makes him kind of evil =/) or he could have decided on his own that getting close to Bree would enable him to get closer to the Order and to find out what happened to his parents (the symbol was in the cabin because he's been spying on/researching the Order). At least in the second scenario, he's only using Bree and not outright trying to hurt her.

Hmmm...some fresh theories.

And, for the record...if you came to me for safety, stole my car and credit cards, then after I took you to another of my homes for safety you bound me to a chair and screamed at me...yeah, you'll see an evil face and some wicked evil eye glares, too.

butterfly · Post by **butterfly** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:17 pm

ARIES1 wrote:Maybe, as others have said, the Order is behind Jonas' parents' disappearance. They could be blackmailing him to trade Bree for his parents (which still makes him kind of evil =/) or he could have decided on his own that getting close to Bree would enable him to get closer to the Order and to find out what happened to his parents (the symbol was in the cabin because he's been spying on/researching the Order). At least in the second scenario, he's only using Bree and not outright trying to hurt her.

Brilliant!
That would explain why Jonas was so eager to help Bree and Daniel. I always thought that was odd, and suggested that Jonas was with The Order. But this is an interesting theory...

cosmicdancer · Post by **cosmicdancer** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:41 pm

Languorous Lass wrote:
Lurker wrote:My point was just that thematically this isn't exactly a repeat of Gemma. It was set up quite differently. I'm not saying that he may not be an Op operative on those grounds, just that, if he is, they took a different approach than with Gemma.
Completely agree, Lurker. There are far more differences than parallels, IMHO.

cosmicdancer wrote:I'm not sure why they haven't gone through his calls list. It would make sense, wouldn't it? More sense than screaming at him for an hour.
Well, some of us have joked that Bree wants to be Tachyon when she grows up. Maybe she's trying just a little too hard to be Tachyon right now.

She's definitely reacting before thinking.

Poweranimals · Post by **Poweranimals** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:33 pm

I don't think Jonas is working for the Order. He had every right to be upset. So far, he's given them no reason not to trust him. He obviously didn't know where the symbol came from. If he was working for the Order, I don't think he would've tried to talk her out of trading herself for Daniel. He would've been all for her doing the ceremony.

chevyfudd · Post by **chevyfudd** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:58 pm

WHat if the order is who took jonas?

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:59 pm

Poweranimals wrote:He had every right to be upset. So far, he's given them no reason not to trust him.

Are you watching the same show I'm watching? Jonas has done many suspicious things; such as using the cell phone after he knew OpAphid traced where Daniel was that way. But other than this, I can give you at least 10 examples of Jonas doing something very strange and suspicious.

trainer101 · Post by **trainer101** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:11 pm

longlostposter wrote:Are you watching the same show I'm watching?

Hmmm... Parallax

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:45 am

longlostposter wrote:
Poweranimals wrote:He had every right to be upset. So far, he's given them no reason not to trust him.
Are you watching the same show I'm watching? Jonas has done many suspicious things; such as using the cell phone after he knew OpAphid traced where Daniel was that way. But other than this, I can give you at least 10 examples of Jonas doing something very strange and suspicious.

Suspicious Jonas Acts
1) Too convienent from the beginning.
2) 'fake' acting - He says one thing but it seems like he thinks the other.
3) Use of his cell phone when all of them know not to because it could be traced.
4) Mysterious papers all throughout the foosball room --what is Jonas researching?

There are more, but for every suspicious act of Jons, there are non-suspicious acts telling us TO trust him.

Non-Suspicious Acts
1) Forgiving Bree about her taking off and stealing his credit card
2) Taking Daniel/Bree in when they needed someone the most.
3) Giving Daniel/Bree all his resources to use.
4) Befriending Daniel

Like I've said before, its hard to tell right now which way Jonas is...the next video we watch should define everything.