0167 - "Spring Break Sucks" [04/5/07]

[sparkybennett]

Maybe so. I will say that Bree's become infinitely more likable. I still don't really like her, but she's become so much better that I think I could actually be around her.

Maybe the creators are making Jonas and Danny act like buffoons to help Bree seem more likeable. They must have been aware that people were responding to Jonas and DB more, and not liking Bree as much.
this drunkeness gives Bree more time to shine.

[watching_watchers]

Oh my god. I can't stop watching Daniel at the end and laughing. And doesn't uno mas mean like one many so I think like it means one too many maybe? xD LMAO.

[consideration]

He was drunk back in "Vegas, Baby!" too.

Oh yeah! Oops.

They're not even in school.

Neither am I, but I've been to a few parties.

They've been kidnapped only very recently and only got away by the grace of God or the stupidity of their captor.

I meant no harm, no foul about them being drunk on the street. If anything comes from that, we won't know until the next video, at least.

[consideration]

Oh my god. I can't stop watching Daniel at the end and laughing. And doesn't uno mas mean like one many so I think like it means one too many maybe? xD LMAO.

One more. It was posted somewhere in this thread.

[sparkybennett]

Oh my god. I can't stop watching Daniel at the end and laughing. And doesn't uno mas mean like one many so I think like it means one too many maybe? xD LMAO.

uno mas = one more

[Balmung]

I know there's differences, Balmung. The very fact that there's usually different levels of certain chemicals in their bodies would almost necessitate that.

However, a number of other psychology and communications studies indicate the idea that - as you put it - "males are physical beings, and women are very emotional beings" (which isn't actually mutually exclusive; I'm just going with the way you phrased it; I know what you're trying to say, though) is a myth.

The hypothesis of many is that both are equally physical/emotional, but social expectations make us expect different behavior (and sometimes are successful at programming it). Obviously this theory is a lot more difficult to support with empirical research than the other, though.

Fair enough.

[watching_watchers]

OMG THE VIDEO IS GREAT that ending, hilarious

I agree 100% and I love your avvie! xD

[watching_watchers]

Oh my god. I can't stop watching Daniel at the end and laughing. And doesn't uno mas mean like one many so I think like it means one too many maybe? xD LMAO.

One more. It was posted somewhere in this thread.

Oh okay! lol I'm in spanish II but yeah I was thinking many instead of more for some reason lol. Thanks.

[consideration]

Bree's Response:

I completely agree with you! I can see you've done some soul searching of your own. As for the boys drinking, it's not that big of a deal. They're just having some fun. Sure I had to take care of them, but I'm glad they were able to go out and enjoy themselves. I'll let you know how they react! Should be interesting...

I'm quoting a lot today!

[Luminous]

is the hat a nod to lad??

awww

This was my thought exactly

Also makes me wonder if they might be giving us a heads up ('xcuse the pun) to get ready for a drop in the new ARG?

I could be wrong - don't get too excited

so who's going to cross the border for a drop/ anyone?

Good point! But that's not exactly what I meant. It took them one video to get from The US to Mexico. I'm sure they'd be back in the States before they would do a drop. I'm just speculating now, remember, I admit, I could be totally off base on this one, but one can only hope

[watching_watchers]

There's more differences among males and among females than there are between them.

Wow you could of fooled me!

I was wondering if Jonas's teeshirt "it tastes like chicken" was in reference to the fish taco he had earlier.

Thats what I was thinking! xD lol.

[Chelseyrl]

I loved this video for so many reasons, mainly because of Bree "rescuing" them and the drunk bits. However, this is the first time where we have seen Jonas plastered off his ass. (Vegas, he was drunk but... he could still pretty much run from a watcher; I don't think he could run that well in this video if it were the same scenario.) Now, with Daniel on the other hand, it is getting me a little worried that he lets himself be such a tool because he knows the bad outcomes that come from his drinking.
Well, drinking rant aside...
the laugh was priceless.
and Jonas... ahhhhhh...
every vid.

[Haz-Matt]

and as far as the males/females thing goes, males and females ARE different. it's been shown, for example, that men are very physical beings, and women are very emotional beings. men usually are focused on outcome, while women are focused on method. unfortunately, i don't really have time to find and cite sources on this, but look it up if you're interested, it's out there.

Being a male who is an both very in touch with his emotions and is focused on the method rather than the outcome... I'd say you are wrong... ; P

And also, didn't Jonas say he gave up drinking???

[Lurker]

I know there's differences, Balmung. The very fact that there's usually different levels of certain chemicals in their bodies would almost necessitate that.

However, a number of other psychology and communications studies indicate the idea that - as you put it - "males are physical beings, and women are very emotional beings" (which isn't actually mutually exclusive; I'm just going with the way you phrased it; I know what you're trying to say, though) is a myth.

The hypothesis of many is that both are equally physical/emotional, but social expectations make us expect different behavior (and sometimes are successful at programming it). Obviously this theory is a lot more difficult to support with empirical research than the other, though.

Fair enough.

By the way, if you're interested in anything more about this (I don't want to make the whole thread be about differences and similarities in the sexes, but I think I should maybe mention this), see if you can find anything on the research done by Julia Wood and Kathryn Dindia, or a book written by them. Those are some of the more interesting statistics I've seen come out of studies on this.

I think their best guess was something like 1% of communication/interaction differences can be attributed without contest to sex (which is to say, all other variables being equal, there'd probably be this difference). There were some other fairly interesting findings on stuff like which sex has better verbal skills and which is more likely to be helpful to strangers (if I recall correctly, females edged out past the males by a small fraction in both categories). Another interesting thing was that while males are more likely to be involved in aggressive situations (verbal or physical), that applies to both the role of the aggressor and the receiver.

If you're at all interested in this kind of stuff, there's a lot out there that contests the traditional ideas about males and females, and it's really worth looking into.

Maybe the creators are making Jonas and Danny act like buffoons to help Bree seem more likeable. They must have been aware that people were responding to Jonas and DB more, and not liking Bree as much.
this drunkeness gives Bree more time to shine.

I think you may be right.

Neither am I, but I've been to a few parties.

Yeah, but you made reference to it being Spring Break. I don't think that would factor in here, do you?

I meant no harm, no foul about them being drunk on the street. If anything comes from that, we won't know until the next video, at least.

I understand that. I'm just saying they know harm and foul could easily come of it. I don't think they're acting very logically (or realistically). At the very least I can't see Jonas going along with all this so easily (he even suggested they go tequila drinking, according to Daniel in the Beast Chat section).

I was wondering if Jonas's teeshirt "it tastes like chicken" was in reference to the fish taco he had earlier.

Ha, nice. I wonder if Bree would take that as a compliment.

[consideration]

Yeah, but you made reference to it being Spring Break. I don't think that would factor in here, do you?

I don't see why it shouldn't. I know lots of people who would head to Mexico to party for Spring Break if we were a bit closer.
Not that I go out and get plastered constantly or anything, but Spring Break is like New Year's for the underage drinker. Especially if you're in school, but not necessarily, using myself and one other person I know as an example.

I understand that. I'm just saying they know harm and foul could easily come of it. I don't think they're acting very logically (or realistically). At the very least I can't see Jonas going along with all this so easily (he even suggested they go tequila drinking, according to Daniel in the Beast Chat section).

Yet again, they're young, they have problems, and they're in Mexico. I don't think they're behavior is too unexpected. They probably didn't go out drinking thinking they were going to get bombed. I'm sure they were just having a good time and didn't know when to stop.