Hymn of One: Auditions Database

Farva · Post by **Farva** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:04 pm

*cough* Well somebody with DSL can IP-jump pretty easily. Anyways, there's only 20 questions, with 5 answers a piece, means 100 different things to try. I'm not talking about every combination, since I imagine the answers are (hopefully!) independent. So if you leave 2-20 in the middle, it takes 5 tries to figure out the higher answer to number 1. Then put 1 in the middle, 3-20 in the middle, and in 5 tries you have the answer to number 2. At the end you pick the highest-scoring answer for each question and hope for the best. I'm not even going to mess with the essays, that's too much of a shot in the dark, but if you got even 5 people together for this little experiment, you'd only need to do the test 20 times each.

Post by **Broken Kid** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:08 pm

hella wrote:isnt there like 24329020008000000000 different combinations of answers though?

I think it would be 5^20 if there are five options and 20 questions. But math was never my strong suit. Google tells me 5^20 = 9.53674316 × 10^13, which is kinda pointless.

Surely there's not just one possibility that gets you a 99%.....

raigne · Post by **raigne** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:08 pm

There are more than 100. It's not 20*5. It's 20^5. Meaning 20*20*20*20*20.

A person with DSL only has access to 253 IP addresses, unless he's been issued more than one network IP.

hella · Post by **hella** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:10 pm

i thought it was 20! which is more like 1*2*3*4*5*6...ect...but thats not even including the fact that theres 5 different answers for each possibility....

and why did you type *cough*?

Farva · Post by **Farva** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:11 pm

But listen, I'm not trying to come up with -every combination- that would be insane (former math major here, I know how big that number is!)

What I'm saying is that there is probably one best answer for number 1. And, independently of that, there is one best answer for number 2. And so forth. So you come up with the 20 best answers, throw them together, and voila. Now, if the programming is such that the answers have different values depending on the other questions, it doesn't work. But if the answers are scored independently, it does. And I'd hate to see the code string that would make them depend on one another!

raigne · Post by **raigne** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:11 pm

It's scientific notiation. It starts with those numbers and goes 13 places past the decimal... sooo... 95,367,431,600,000

There's only 4,294,967,296 total addresses with IP 4, and a good chunk of them are classes A and B, so I would say it's not possible to get to a good number of the total solutions...

And uh... each person with broadband only has access to 253 of them...

hella · Post by **hella** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:16 pm

how would you be able to find each right answer independently of each other? you cant.. youd have to do every combination

Farva · Post by **Farva** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:16 pm

Listen folks, I'm telling you, logic-puzzle style here, that it would only take 101 times through the test, done properly, to get the highest answer.

Step 1: Pick an answer for question 1.
Step 2: Answer questions 2-20 with the middle circle.
Step 3: Pick a different answer for question 1.
Step 4: Repeat step 2.
Step 5: Continue until you have tested all 5 answers for number 1. Record the answer which nets you the highest total. This is the best possible answer for number 1. Times you have taken the test: 5.

Now, repeat 1-5 for question 2, 3, etc. At the end of the day, you will have taken the test 100 times, and you will have a list of the 20 highest scoring answers. Now, put those 20 scores together, push submit, and presto. On test number 101, you have the best score.

Somebody tell me how to cloak my IP or some such and I'll start running them.

hella · Post by **hella** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:18 pm

Farva wrote:Listen folks, I'm telling you, logic-puzzle style here, that it would only take 101 times through the test, done properly, to get the highest answer.

Step 1: Pick an answer for question 1.
Step 2: Answer questions 2-20 with the middle circle.
Step 3: Pick a different answer for question 1.
Step 4: Repeat step 2.
Step 5: Continue until you have tested all 5 answers for number 1. Record the answer which nets you the highest total. This is the best possible answer for number 1. Times you have taken the test: 5.

Now, repeat 1-5 for question 2, 3, etc. At the end of the day, you will have taken the test 100 times, and you will have a list of the 20 highest scoring answers. Now, put those 20 scores together, push submit, and presto. On test number 101, you have the best score.

Somebody tell me how to cloak my IP or some such and I'll start running them.

hey thats an awesome idea! so clever. i wish i was good enough at math to be a math major =(

Farva · Post by **Farva** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:21 pm

Like I said, there IS a possibility that the answers are coded so that they are worth different amounts of points depending on the other answers, but that code would be...crazy.

raigne · Post by **raigne** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:23 pm

It's possible that someone else wrote the engine. Actually, this is most likely. So depending on the quiz software...

And someone else mentioned using Anonymouse? There's Anonymizer.... you're looking for a proxy server to mask your IP.

Farva · Post by **Farva** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:28 pm

I'm actually banking on it being like the crappy personality test generators on a lot of websites, in which the answers are scored independently

hella · Post by **hella** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:31 pm

maybe there isnt any right answers that would get any more than about 60 or 70%...i mean what are the odds that out of everyone we know whose done it, no one has scored higher than that yet? maybe the point is to give us clues through the questions...and to post the picture on our myspace pages to advertise lg15

Farva · Post by **Farva** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:33 pm

quite possible. Doesn't say to me that we shouldn't at least try, eh?

giddeanx · Post by **giddeanx** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:41 pm

I wonder if gender has anything to do with scoring.