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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:07 pm
by longlostposter
PinkoLady wrote:
So LLP, you're convinced Jonas is not to be trusted?
Yeah, I'm about 85% convinced he's with the Order. These last three videos have pretty well convinced me of that. If he isn't, I'll be really surprised.
At this point, I'm not for any character, or care about what any character turns out to be. The only thing I want to see is Bree NOT doing the ceremony. I'm just sitting on the edge of my seat, and Jonas being a bad guy would definately add to the plot, IMO.
Yeah, cell phone using Jonas...traitor.
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:09 pm
by kristenjane
tayduh1987 wrote:PinkoLady wrote:Haha, oddly enough, Luzduz, that came to my mind too... I was thinking, Nancy Drew = Queen of Hearts?
So LLP, you're convinced Jonas is not to be trusted?
I don't trust Jonas...I've been flipping and flopping and the fact that he won't keep his cell phone off is really selfish. So selfish he's evil.
I still think Daniel could be making up that he is still using the phone to make us dislike Jonas because he is upset with him right now.
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:10 pm
by tayduh1987
kristenjane wrote:tayduh1987 wrote:PinkoLady wrote:Haha, oddly enough, Luzduz, that came to my mind too... I was thinking, Nancy Drew = Queen of Hearts?
So LLP, you're convinced Jonas is not to be trusted?
I don't trust Jonas...I've been flipping and flopping and the fact that he won't keep his cell phone off is really selfish. So selfish he's evil.
I still think Daniel could be making up that he is still using the phone to make us dislike Jonas because he is upset with him right now.
I think that you are making up excuses for Jonas to be good...lol like I myself have found myself doing.
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:13 pm
by kayokosaeki
TommyIsCancer wrote:longlostposter wrote:PinkoLady wrote:So are we supposed to understand that Tachyon just left that package there a little before Daniel found it, or that she put it there earlier and they never saw it?
Pinklady, I'm thinking it's possible that Jonas planted it, and that something in the Drew books is going to trigger him.
EDIT: Oops, trigger Daniel.
Well, do we have any other hand written note by Tachyon that can be used to compare the handwritting? Or heck, do we have anything hand written by JONAS?
yes we do have a hand written note by tachyon that can be compared. it is her handwriting.
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:15 pm
by deagol
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:19 pm
by AM
I think that DB has the potential to go all Manturian candidate on Bree and that Jonas might potentailly be connected to the Order somehow (the whole 'lost at sea' story has always sounded so bogus and he's always been just too conveniently good to be true, rescuing them in their most desperate hour etc).
If this is following the recipe for a true epic tale, with Bree as the heroine, then eventually she must confront OPAPHID on her own. IMO, what we are seeing here is the setup for that. Each trial makes Bree stronger and more mature in preparation for the battle looming ahead of her.
So, no fear that the end is near folks. Bree is still far from ready to face the order on her own. I'm glad she is not the whiney little girl of earlier vids talking to her stuffed friends but she still has a long way to go.
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:28 pm
by spam6530
ok, so reversing haikU is Ukiah... the city with the bowling ally and Jonas' house... but where does that leave us?
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:28 pm
by kristenjane
I dont WANT Jonas to be good. I think it would be a cool twist because he has been in the plot for a little now and then BOOM he is with the Order. But if he is I hope that he would be smarter about it and not be so obvious.
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:29 pm
by luzdzus
AM wrote: I'm glad she is not the whiney little girl of earlier vids talking to her stuffed friends but she still has a long way to go.
The phrase I've always used to describe the early Bree is "intolerably cute". I like her pissed off (as in The Human Ransom) a whole lot better.
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:29 pm
by tayduh1987
spam6530 wrote:
ok, so reversing haikU is Ukiah... the city with the bowling ally and Jonas' house... but where does that leave us?
Where it BEGAN!
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:35 pm
by longlostposter
AM wrote:I think that DB has the potential to go all Manturian candidate on Bree and that Jonas might potentailly be connected to the Order somehow (the whole 'lost at sea' story has always sounded so bogus and he's always been just too conveniently good to be true, rescuing them in their most desperate hour etc).
If this is following the recipe for a true epic tale, with Bree as the heroine, then eventually she must confront OPAPHID on her own. IMO, what we are seeing here is the setup for that. Each trial makes Bree stronger and more mature in preparation for the battle looming ahead of her.
So, no fear that the end is near folks. Bree is still far from ready to face the order on her own. I'm glad she is not the whiney little girl of earlier vids talking to her stuffed friends but she still has a long way to go.
Great observations. That would mean that ultimately everyone and anyone who tries to help Bree would turn on her. This is great, and I think you may be right.
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:37 pm
by Onewen
ok, so reversing haikU is Ukiah... the city with the bowling ally and Jonas' house... but where does that leave us?
ummm....am I the only one who peed a little when they read this??
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:38 pm
by Marilee
kristenjane wrote:I dont WANT Jonas to be good. I think it would be a cool twist because he has been in the plot for a little now and then BOOM he is with the Order. But if he is I hope that he would be smarter about it and not be so obvious.
didn't we already have something like that with Gemma? I don't want to feel like we are doing the same thing again.
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:40 pm
by Dejajeva
Hi guys. I'm um..er, new, to the LG15 saga, (and this is my first post) but I may be able to help. I'm actually pretty obsessed with Nancy Drew, and have all of the main books here. The old ones, anyways.
I don't know if I can help, but I can certainly go look stuff up for you. Also, I noticed Daniel talking about Nancy Drew's hometown, and, I may have missed one of you saying it, but it's River Heights.
Also, um, well, on Veronica Mars, she's always telling people if they don't want to be traceable, to get a pre-paid cell phone. So if Rob Thomas and such are correct, then pre-paid cells are NOT able to be traced. But that's just what I know from watching VM.
I don't know how much this will help, but there it is anyways.
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:40 pm
by longlostposter
Marilee wrote:kristenjane wrote:I dont WANT Jonas to be good. I think it would be a cool twist because he has been in the plot for a little now and then BOOM he is with the Order. But if he is I hope that he would be smarter about it and not be so obvious.
didn't we already have something like that with Gemma? I don't want to feel like we are doing the same thing again.
Why? It makes sense that the Order would continue to send people in to keep an eye on Bree. I not only think it's appropriate, but inevitable.
