0141 - "Bree is Crazy" [02-27-07]

ladron121 · Post by **ladron121** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:54 pm

longlostposter wrote:Not really. If Jonas has information hidden somewhere, and they don't know where it is, or there is someone to back him up (the Nanny or Tachyon comes to mind), then that could explain it.

The thing that has always bothered me, is that Tachyon felt comfortable staying the weekend with them. If Tachyon knew who Jonas was, and what he was doing, it would explain why she didn't feel the need to hide her identity from him.

If he had information that he was hiding from the Order, they would have done more than just post a Watcher at his door. And again, that doesn't explain why if he is trying to help Bree, protect her even, why he wouldn't show her all the info he has. Why play dumb if the Order already knows who you are? And as for Tachyon, she has only what information she took from OpAphid. If there was no info on Jonas, she wouldn't have any idea who he was.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:07 pm

ladron121 wrote:
longlostposter wrote:Not really. If Jonas has information hidden somewhere, and they don't know where it is, or there is someone to back him up (the Nanny or Tachyon comes to mind), then that could explain it.

The thing that has always bothered me, is that Tachyon felt comfortable staying the weekend with them. If Tachyon knew who Jonas was, and what he was doing, it would explain why she didn't feel the need to hide her identity from him.

If he had information that he was hiding from the Order, they would have done more than just post a Watcher at his door. And again, that doesn't explain why if he is trying to help Bree, protect her even, why he wouldn't show her all the info he has. Why play dumb if the Order already knows who you are? And as for Tachyon, she has only what information she took from OpAphid. If there was no info on Jonas, she wouldn't have any idea who he was.

This goes with the theory that Jonas and Bree are brother and sister. He would help her because he's her brother, and he knows it. This could be the information that he is hiding, and why they take a hands-off approach to him. In the event he disappears, or is killed, whoever has the information could approach Bree with it. It's like an insurance policy.

How do you know that Tachyon doesn't know Jonas is Bree's brother?

EDIT: Well, this could be part of the information he's hiding. It could tell Bree about her bloodline, and maybe even what happened to her natural parents. Also, he could know more about the Order then they want Bree to know. Perhaps he even knows what the ceremony entails.

ladron121 · Post by **ladron121** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:17 pm

longlostposter wrote:This goes with the theory that Jonas and Bree are brother and sister. He would help her because he's her brother, and he knows it. This could be the information that he is hiding, and why they take a hands-off approach to him. In the event he disappears, or is killed, whoever has the information could approach Bree with it. It's like an insurance policy.

How do you know that Tachyon doesn't know Jonas is Bree's brother?

It still doesn't make sense. He knows, and wants to help her, so he pretends to be a stranger and hopes that she decides to trust him? What if she had said no? And if the Order separated them at birth, then they would know who he was, and once he started posting public videos they would have been all over him. And if they are brother and sister, why hasn't he told her yet? What purpose does it serve to fake being a stranger?

The more likely senario is he is a plant from the Order, maybe not OpAphid's branch but another one. And if Tachyon knew anything like that, why would she keep her information secret? I mean, the "fail safe" you are describing protects Jonas, but there is nothing keeping Tachyon from giving out that info. The Order already wants her dead.

kjones · Post by **kjones** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:23 pm

PinkoLady wrote:I hope Bree and Daniel aren't brother and sister, since they did kiss a couple times, and Daniel did want in her pants-- it would be so awkward for him.

when did Jonas and Bree kiss? I don't remember ever hearing that?

also can someone bring me up to date on the nanny thing? I don't know what that is all about?

ladron121 · Post by **ladron121** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:26 pm

kjones wrote:
PinkoLady wrote:I hope Bree and Daniel aren't brother and sister, since they did kiss a couple times, and Daniel did want in her pants-- it would be so awkward for him.

when did Jonas and Bree kiss? I don't remember ever hearing that?

also can someone bring me up to date on the nanny thing? I don't know what that is all about?

Bree and Daniel, not Bree and Jonas

And Jonas was raised by his nanny, since his parents were "lost at sea".

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:30 pm

ladron121 wrote:
longlostposter wrote:This goes with the theory that Jonas and Bree are brother and sister. He would help her because he's her brother, and he knows it. This could be the information that he is hiding, and why they take a hands-off approach to him. In the event he disappears, or is killed, whoever has the information could approach Bree with it. It's like an insurance policy.

How do you know that Tachyon doesn't know Jonas is Bree's brother?
It still doesn't make sense. He knows, and wants to help her, so he pretends to be a stranger and hopes that she decides to trust him? What if she had said no? And if the Order separated them at birth, then they would know who he was, and once he started posting public videos they would have been all over him. And if they are brother and sister, why hasn't he told her yet? What purpose does it serve to fake being a stranger?

The more likely senario is he is a plant from the Order, maybe not OpAphid's branch but another one. And if Tachyon knew anything like that, why would she keep her information secret? I mean, the "fail safe" you are describing protects Jonas, but there is nothing keeping Tachyon from giving out that info. The Order already wants her dead.

Isn't it obvious why he wouldn't tell her? If he told her the information he has, then there would be no reason for the Order to keep him alive. There's no more insurance policy. He didn't know that Bree would choose to go to his house, but she was eating out of dumpsters, and was scared to death to go home; this made it probable, since no else offered to help.

Your point about Tachyon not revealing the info is noted. It is possible, though, that she does have a reason, we just don't know what it is yet.

This is not something I'm 100% sure about. I mean, yes, he could be Order, there's no doubt about that. Just tossing a theory out there that I think could be a good possibility. And yeah, it would be a Star Wars rip-off.

kjones · Post by **kjones** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:30 pm

Ya I didn't think that Jonas and Bree ever had anything going on. Just wanted to make sure I haven't missed anything thanks.

watching_watchers · Post by **watching_watchers** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:34 pm

Bree's crazy. I knew it all along. Lol. jk uhm yeah idk what to say about this video I'm looking forward to the next one though.

kellylen · Post by **kellylen** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:41 pm

you know, I've never really been a huge fan of the jonas/bree sibling thing, but if it is true, i'm starting to see it now

ladron121 · Post by **ladron121** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:49 pm

longlostposter wrote:Isn't it obvious why he wouldn't tell her? If he told her the information he has, then there would be no reason for the Order to keep him alive. There's no more insurance policy. He didn't know that Bree would choose to go to his house, but she was eating out of dumpsters, and was scared to death to go home; this made it probable, since no else offered to help.

Your point about Tachyon not revealing the info is noted. It is possible, though, that she does have a reason, we just don't know what it is yet.

This is not something I'm 100% sure about. I mean, yes, he could be Order, there's no doubt about that. Just tossing a theory out there that I think could be a good possibility. And yeah, it would be a Star Wars rip-off.

If the Order has such ready access to Jonas, to the point that he could be killed at any time if he gave out the info, wouldn't he be putting Bree into MORE danger by inviting her to stay with him? And they almost didn't go to Jonas, only with outside (unpredictable) help did they finally decide.

Yeah, its pretty much up in the air. I don't think they would make Jonas and Bree siblings (although I do think they'd make them think they were for a while), nor do I think they would make Jonas evil.

I'm pretty sure when all is said and done they will smile, laugh, hug, etc.

kjones · Post by **kjones** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:49 pm

I hope that we see a video of what's actually going on between Jonas and Bree and not just of Daniel or Bree talking about it. It would be cool to see Bree interrogating Jonas.

ladron121 · Post by **ladron121** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:52 pm

kjones wrote:I hope that we see a video of what's actually going on between Jonas and Bree and not just of Daniel or Bree talking about it. It would be cool to see Bree interrogating Jonas.

I think it would actually be kinda funny and sad

I would think that maybe they'd try to contact brother or Tachyon if not for some pointers, then at least for them to come out and "turn the screws" on Jonas.

kjones · Post by **kjones** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:54 pm

good point! I think that would be pretty cool to see. I wonder if Tachyon gave that information to Bree and Daniel because she knew something about Jonas?

ladron121 · Post by **ladron121** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:57 pm

kjones wrote:good point! I think that would be pretty cool to see. I wonder if Tachyon gave that information to Bree and Daniel because she knew something about Jonas?

But at the same time ask yourself if Jonas was a member of the Order, or some kind of threat, and Tachyon knew it, why would she leave Bree with him?

kjones · Post by **kjones** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:00 pm

ladron121 wrote:
kjones wrote:good point! I think that would be pretty cool to see. I wonder if Tachyon gave that information to Bree and Daniel because she knew something about Jonas?
But at the same time ask yourself if Jonas was a member of the Order, or some kind of threat, and Tachyon knew it, why would she leave Bree with him?

Good point again. AHHHH too many questions lol. I wish we'd get a video tonight lol that answers some of them lol.