A Watcher (11/17/06)

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:31 pm

Bush? Uh, he didn't exactly design that, lol. It's much older.

William · Post by **William** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:31 pm

imogene2004 wrote:This is what it say on the "pyramid eye thing"-Annuit Coeptis Novus Ordo Seclorum.

Which loosely translates to "Announcing the beginning of the New World Order"

New World Order=Illuminati

No. Annuit Cœptis roughly translates as "he [God] has favored our undertakings." Novus Ordo Seclorum roughly translates as "new order of the ages." It's a Virgil quote. "New World Order" would be Novus ordo mundi.

iamcool · Post by **iamcool** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:32 pm

Kasdeja wrote:Bush? Uh, he didn't exactly design that, lol. It's much older.

ok tht bit was a joke

ForeverMourn · Post by **ForeverMourn** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:35 pm

Killthesmiley wrote:or knew about it before even seeing it...

Good Point. ^_^

Wisi Girl · Post by **Wisi Girl** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:39 pm

Ericski: I remember you mentioning a tattoo ealier. Great job at anticipating that! Would you mind telling me why the man behind the door wasn't mentioned by Gemma since you have that sort of insight?

I have seen all of the Nikki Bower videos but I always thought it was just a fan taking it too far. I mean, I always assumed she planted the box next to that bridge and then acted as though she found it there......It will take a lot to convince me she is legit. Although, there is significant coincidence in the similarity between the hand tattoo and the symbol carved on that box. I suppose the "creators" just decided to incorporate her ideas just as they do with many of us in these forums. I will now refer to them with quotations because they stopped creating these videos ages ago. Rather sad how we direct everything now.

I still think there is something to that shot of the man behind the door! I mean, it was so obvious. I made a comment in the thread about the last video and predicted Gemma's new one. However, I thought she would mention both the man in the store and the one behind the door because both were screaming for attention in how the camera captured them.

arammat · Post by **arammat** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:40 pm

Kasdeja wrote:
thejyav wrote:
zzfoxfirezz wrote:
thejyav wrote:
iamcool wrote:what time is it in the us?

coz they normally come out over here at about 1/2 am, so that will be like 8/9am in the us
midwest time its currently 1:22pm
Meh, more like 12:22.... East coast is 1:22
well i'm in indianapolis so i think midwest.
Yeh, Indiana time zones are schizophrenic. I'm on Eastern, the county below me is Central.

Yeah, and that's really whacky, because Michigan goes as far west as any part of Indiana, and the whole state is in the Eastern time zone. I can never figure out why Indiana doesn't just make the whole state Eastern.

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:40 pm

Ahhh...for once I agree with Wisi...first spacie, now wisi...noooooooooo

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:43 pm

arammat wrote:
Kasdeja wrote:
thejyav wrote:
zzfoxfirezz wrote:
thejyav wrote:
iamcool wrote:what time is it in the us?

coz they normally come out over here at about 1/2 am, so that will be like 8/9am in the us
midwest time its currently 1:22pm
Meh, more like 12:22.... East coast is 1:22
well i'm in indianapolis so i think midwest.
Yeh, Indiana time zones are schizophrenic. I'm on Eastern, the county below me is Central.
Yeah, and that's really whacky, because Michigan goes as far west as any part of Indiana, and the whole state is in the Eastern time zone. I can never figure out why Indiana doesn't just make the whole state Eastern.

We were until that asshat Mitch Daniels decided to change it. Then he let each county choose for themselves...so you can drive straight north through 4 counties and change times 4 times. It's ridiculous. We never used to change our clocks at all.

omegawoman · Post by **omegawoman** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:44 pm

tryon wrote:
Broken Kid wrote:Ok, I know we're supposed to believe Gemma, or at least that she really saw that thing. But I have to say it's impossible for a normal fan to take the video we were provided and get that image from the tiniest, bluriest black smudge! Hmph.

Maybe she's making all this up.......

Edit: Then again, I still hear "order of gecko" so.......
I second that, BK, but at least now I have a better idea of Gemma's role in all this. It was suggested a couple threads ago, maybe by Don'tHaveAClue and Tribute, that Gemma was kind of like our spokesperson, or a way for our ideas to be communicated to Bree and Daniel, since the idea that they read this forums is a bit problematic, metafiction and all that. I wasn't completely buying it, just because, wow how boring is that, but now I'm thinking that maybe Gemma is a way of focusing our input, directing us toward things we might not have noticed (the watcher symbol), and away from things that might be of no significance (the shadows in the doorframe). Dunno, I'm also in the (terribly unpopular?) camp of those who want less fan input and more creator ideas, so it might be wishful thinking on my part.

Also, kudos to Gemma for actually making it into the library. ...What, wikipedia doesn't do it for you?

Isn't Tribute the one suspected of logging in accidently under Lonelygirl15 yesterday? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

thejyav · Post by **thejyav** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:45 pm

Kasdeja wrote:Ahhh...for once I agree with Wisi...first spacie, now wisi...noooooooooo

you have been agreeing with me too of late...whats going on?

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:45 pm

I think something is wrong with me...

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:46 pm

omegawoman wrote:
tryon wrote:
Broken Kid wrote:Ok, I know we're supposed to believe Gemma, or at least that she really saw that thing. But I have to say it's impossible for a normal fan to take the video we were provided and get that image from the tiniest, bluriest black smudge! Hmph.

Maybe she's making all this up.......

Edit: Then again, I still hear "order of gecko" so.......
I second that, BK, but at least now I have a better idea of Gemma's role in all this. It was suggested a couple threads ago, maybe by Don'tHaveAClue and Tribute, that Gemma was kind of like our spokesperson, or a way for our ideas to be communicated to Bree and Daniel, since the idea that they read this forums is a bit problematic, metafiction and all that. I wasn't completely buying it, just because, wow how boring is that, but now I'm thinking that maybe Gemma is a way of focusing our input, directing us toward things we might not have noticed (the watcher symbol), and away from things that might be of no significance (the shadows in the doorframe). Dunno, I'm also in the (terribly unpopular?) camp of those who want less fan input and more creator ideas, so it might be wishful thinking on my part.

Also, kudos to Gemma for actually making it into the library. ...What, wikipedia doesn't do it for you?

Isn't Tribute the one suspected of logging in accidently under Lonelygirl15 yesterday? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Indeed....in...deed....thoughtful and suspicious look...

arammat · Post by **arammat** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:48 pm

Sami wrote:the watcher has a symbol who shows he's a watcher.
If I was a secret undercover agent I sure as hell would't tattooed 'Secret Undercover Agent' or something on my hand

I think it is meant as a secret symbol that would let others in the order recognize one of their own. Since they wouldn't know other watchers, they wouldn't know who to trust otherwise. Just a theory. Of course, if you can find info about it at the library, it's not much of a secret....

milowent · Post by **milowent** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:48 pm

so folks, is NBR canon now? or what is she? did the Creators copy her? Or did she copy the creators? how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop? or something like that.

Gemma's Evil Coffeetable:

NikkiBowerReport (11/5/06):

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:51 pm

I'll honestly be a bit ticked if NBR turns out canon...I mean, as soon as Gemma came she was immediately put into a canon area ... and NBR and the others were in the FANFIC section. I'm sorry, but that's crap, not everyone is one iota interested in the FANFIC section.